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To: PieterCasparzen

I say with grand charges must come grand proof. Just because some “eminent historian” wrote something means nothing. What vetting have you given it? I named one simple obvious thing. Time lines. Go to your conspiracy theory support group and see if they can construct time lines. Then come back. I’m not going to goose chase after this book and that book without a good reason. That is putting confidence in men and not in God.


38 posted on 09/21/2013 10:22:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I say with grand charges must come grand proof. Just because some “eminent historian” wrote something means nothing. What vetting have you given it? I named one simple obvious thing. Time lines. Go to your conspiracy theory support group and see if they can construct time lines. Then come back. I’m not going to goose chase after this book and that book without a good reason. That is putting confidence in men and not in God.

You have to read A. Sutton, or listen to the video, to understand it. He has the proof, that's the point.

Stanford University, specifically the Hoover Institution has a lot of files that include source documents that reveal a lot of evidence. Mr. Sutton did extensive research of SOURCE documents. Some of them I found copies of on the internet. SOURCE documents, not speculation. I have copies of some source documents. Others, like corporate records - are official corporate records that he says he read. If he's "making up" stories about that - someone else could easily prove him wrong by getting the real corporate records. This has not happened. Why would he lie about corporate records, which could easily prove him wrong ?

Stanford pushed him out. Not because he lied. They never came up with being able to prove something he said was false. They just pushed him out. This ended his ability to access the Hoover Institution archives. I was SHOCKED to find out Stanford pushed him out. Professors are almost NEVER pushed out. Any subversive wacko out there is LOVED by universities and glorified. What does it take to get pushed out ???

GET IT ? 2 + 2 = 4. It ain't hard to figure out. Let's go prove him wrong.

Go listen to his video on youtube, the Best Enemy Money can Buy. You can keep stopping it. Go fact by fact, write them all down. Take each fact and evaluate, like a juror on a jury, like a detective interviewing a suspect, is this purported fact true, false, provable, unprovable ? What is his motivation to tell the truth ? To lie ?

Hey, if Standard Oil gave essential help to Germany by providing high-octane aviation fuel, without which the Luftwaffe would have been UNCOMPETITIVE, then that's a big fat glaring fact. I can understand why American big business would conduct international trade BEFORE the war. That's all well and fine. But if American big business knew beforehand that the intent was for the US and UK to go to war with Germany - in fact, was purposely arming Germany for exactly such a war, that's not only immoral - it's illegal. That would be aiding and abetting America's enemies - actually creating them.

If I take a few years of my life and put together a whole book, with a timeline, citing my source document references - many "naysayers" will simply say it is conspiracy theory and not even read it. I doubt you would read it. I do not have time to write such a book, especially considering it would not be read. There already is research out there, published. But the reader has to verify the references for themselves. They would have to as well with any book I would write; but they wouldn't. They'd simply roll their eyes and toss the book aside.

Many people do not want to verify references for themselves. They can see all the evidence of the crime before their eyes, but it's too much for them to take, to admit that the "wackos" are right. They are simply "anti-conspiracy" people, and as such they don't have to spend any time or effort on the issue.

They actually could have offered to them a video where a new world order type sat down and calmly admitted that the conspiracy was true. They would not admit that it was real. So they would not even watch the video for more than a minute. No, it's just a wacky video. I used to be one of those people.

I can't prove things in your mind (lol), I can only prove things in my mind.
43 posted on 09/21/2013 12:54:33 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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