‘Not how we do it in New York’: Ex-NYPD cop questions sister's killing by Capitol police

RT News ^ | Oct 5, 2013

[KeyLargo]

‘Not how we do it in New York’: Ex-NYPD cop questions sister's killing by Capitol police Published time: October 05, 2013 10:44

Police in Washington DC did not have to resort to shooting dead an unarmed woman, who lead officers on a short-lived car chase through the Capitol on Thursday, said the driver's sister, former New York police sergeant Valarie Carey.

"My sister could have been any person traveling in our capital," Valarie Carey told reporters outside her Brooklyn home on Saturday. "Deadly physical force was not the ultimate recourse and it didn't have to be."

[KeyLargo]

Valarie (L) and Amy Carey, sisters of Miriam Carey, the woman involved in the Capitol Hill shooting, attend a news conference outside their home in the Brooklyn borough of New York, October 4, 2013. (Reuters / Carlo Allegri)

[Mouton]

Right, based on the recent motorcycle chase of the SUV in which the cops were part of the mob, they aid in the commission of crimes.

[wiseone]

Bulls***t..yet another case of black buffoonery ,either on drugs or a mental case , with 3 kids in his car, he starts shooting at a cop!!..how is it Allen, 34, with an extensive arrest record in the Pittsburgh area, yet he was working as a security guard and had been licensed to carry a concealed weapon in Pennsylvania??.!!!

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2013/08/friend_of_portland_man_who_die.html

[CGASMIA68]

Lame stream actually asked OMara for an opin on this and he basically said there were other choices.
Same group that slanders OMara now asks for his opin.

I think this family needs to lawyer up big and expensive and get the child of this poor woman $$ support for life.
There was no need to kill her.Period.

[molson209]

Were orders given by the White House ?

[jpsb]

Sad story, this poor woman should not have been shot to death.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Not armed with a handgun but armed with a vehicle capable of inflicting deadly force.

[kearnyirish2]

“Sad story, this poor woman should not have been shot to death.”

She sealed her fate by moving the car when it was surrounded by cops on foot; she could have killed them, and they take that into account. It is a sad story, because apparently she was crazy; thank God the daughter wasn’t hurt/killed.

[2nd amendment mama]

How convenient that you spotted the fact that he had "an extensive arrest record" but you left out the main fact that it was "mostly for traffic offenses, including speeding, running a red light and driving with a suspended license. He pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in March 2011 after getting into a fight."

Are you implying that you advocate that people should lose their 2nd amendment rights over traffic arrests?

[Henry Hnyellar]

It’s how Obama does it. Aren’t you glad that you voted for him?

‘Not how we do it in New York’

[freekitty]

There are certainly a lot of versions of why she did what she did. Wonder what her real reason was?

[KeyLargo]

At least the cops didn’t shoot the dog in this incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Il4wPI_TLA

[Paine in the Neck]

“Not how we do it in NY”

NY’s spray and pray gunslingers would have picked off a few innocent bystanders,as well.

[prof.h.mandingo]

My understanding was the car was blocked at that point. As an ex state trooper there are options that could have been used. Police today have the idea of shoot first and let the rest sort itself out. Not good policy or police work in my opinion.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

I agree with all of your points. My earlier point was to simply state that to portray the lady as being “unarmed” is essentially if not factually incorrect.

[Dick Vomer]

Gee, the cop now gets to feel like the rest of the proles who get shot up by the po-po.

I’m waiting for a “wrong address” no knock raid with the obligatory dog killing and homeowne getting shot that happens to be a police officer or family. Then the big karmic wheel in the sky will have finally turned.

[KeyLargo]

"My understanding was the car was blocked at that point. As an ex state trooper there are options that could have been used. Police today have the idea of shoot first and let the rest sort itself out. Not good policy or police work in my opinion."

There was one shooter wearing a sport shirt and shorts, not in a uniform. She saw him and was afraid.

“There had to be something else they could have done,” chimed in Amy Carey, a registered nurse who lives in Bedford-Stuyvesant. “She didn’t have to die. To know a child was in the car, too, why did they shoot?”

[KeyLargo]

Discussed here on Michael Savage program:

http://vaca.bayradio.com/ksfo_archives/ksfo_player.php?day=5&hour=19

[9YearLurker]

Good point.

[prof.h.mandingo]

True but in that case anyone in a car can be considered armed. BTW I can kill you with my thumb. But I see your point. I just think most LEO’s understand a car can be deadly but the point of unarmed was meant in the context of the car not presenting a hazard at that point. Another point I wonder about and maybe you have more info. than me.
Tazers? I am pretty sure they would be equipped with them. Since the officers were approaching the car they should have been pretty sure she was unarmed. You don't approach if you suspect a weapon in this situation. Why no tazers drawn? Just guns. Poor training and a Robocop mentality in my opinion. Of course I was on the force 30 years ago when we usually tried to use the most uncommon of the senses. Common sense.