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A Suddenly Nervous China Tells The US To "Earnestly Take Steps" To Avoid A Default
Zero Hedge ^ | 10/7/13 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/07/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by Nachum

While the world's largest hedge fund, the Fed, may not care about the performance of its "bad bank" assets, and thus is largely ambivalent if the US Treasury defaults on the $2 trillion in US paper held by Ben Bernanke, others don't have the luxury of merely printing away any incurred MTM losses. Such as America's largest foreign creditor China, which at last check held at least $1.277 trillion in US Treasurys, which after realizing with a substantial delay that the US Congress is not precisely a "rational actor" and its bonds may be materially impaired in the case of a technical default, is starting to panic. In an oped in the largest media publication, China Daily, vice finance minister Zhu Guangyao, warned that the "clock is ticking" to avoid a US default that could hurt China's interests and the global economy. Somehow we doubt Boehner or Obama are particularly concerned about what happens to "Chinese interests." Of course, if China so wishes, it can pen an Op-Ed in the NYT and tell the US just what will happen if $1.3 trillion in US Treasurys were suddenly to be dumped in a liquidation fire sale.

More from BBC:

China, the US's largest creditor, is "naturally concerned about developments in the US fiscal cliff", vice finance minister Zhu Guangyao said.

He asked that "the US earnestly take steps to resolve" the issue.

Mr Zhu said that China and the US are "inseparable". Beijing is a huge investor in US Treasury bonds.

"The executive branch of the US government has to take decisive and credible steps to avoid a default on its Treasury bonds," he said.

"It is important for the US economy as well as the global economy."

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


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KEYWORDS: avoid; china; default; nervous
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And Obama offers a debt deal to the GOP today. What a coincidence.
1 posted on 10/07/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 10/07/2013 9:20:09 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

From article: Mr Zhu said that China and the US are “inseparable”.

Another way to look at it: China and the US are hopelessly entangled.


3 posted on 10/07/2013 9:21:19 AM PDT by Heartlander2
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To: Nachum

http://www.msunderestimated.com/2009/11/snl-obama-jintao-press-conference-in-beijing-video/


4 posted on 10/07/2013 9:22:23 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

I am seriously sick of hearing about “default”. That’s like saying you are going to default on your house because the season tickets to the opera are due.


5 posted on 10/07/2013 9:24:25 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Paladin2

THAT was a funny bit.


6 posted on 10/07/2013 9:24:32 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

It’s like not much has improved since 2009.


7 posted on 10/07/2013 9:26:27 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

Expect the fed (both DNC and GOP-e) to cave on this ultimatum from their mandarin masters. Free traitors sold the US to the highest bidder, now we ALL will have to pay the price. When obama said “ you didn’t build that” he was right, the chinese did. The free traitors stole and sold our national sovereignty to the highest bidder, and will tell you to your face that they did, and as long as they got theirs, they could care less who they destroyed in the process to get it.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 9:33:45 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Nachum

I’ll bet China is just raring to buy up all that disputed 14th Amendment debt Obama wants to issue. No risk involved in that. Americans would never repudiate unconstitutionally issued paper.


9 posted on 10/07/2013 9:35:05 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Army Air Corps
Tend to your cabbage and noodles. If we want your opinion we'll let you know.

Pei-ping

10 posted on 10/07/2013 9:36:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: factoryrat

bttt


11 posted on 10/07/2013 9:38:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: factoryrat

.......Sir, with sincerest respect to your post, we don’t owe China a damn thing because of the absolute right of “offset”. Simply put, including stolen royalties, they owe us far more than we owe them. A strong President and an honest one, like Cruz or Palin, would negotiate a “walk away” on this so called “debt”. For your convenience, the link below is a history of the China debt to the U.S.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/08/26/its-time-for-china-to-pay-its-debts-to-united-states/


12 posted on 10/07/2013 9:43:27 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: factoryrat
It isn't Free Trade that's driven manufacturing jobs overseas.

Massive corporate taxation, limitless legal vulnerability, crushing environmental regulation and pro-Union arbitrary Government: these are why industries have increasingly chosen to relocate away from the USA.

Not to mention the job-killing tidal wave of ObamaCare.

Free Trade is simply economic Freedom of Association. Corporations take their capital to where it is treated best. Right now that isn't the US.

Corporations are strictly bound to look out for the interests of their shareholders. They are not our property and they owe us precisely nothing. Why should they put their shareholders' capital at risk just to provide some union guy with an early pension?

Hope this was helpful.

13 posted on 10/07/2013 9:52:18 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Nachum

When you owe a thousand dollars to the bank, and can’t pay. . . it’s your problem.

When you owe billions to the bank, and can’t pay . . .that’s the BANK’S problem.

Too bad, so sad, China. . .


14 posted on 10/07/2013 9:55:45 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Nachum

This is big news. Too big to fail banks also have visited him recently warning him not to allow a default. I was getting concerned that he was willing to default as a strategy for 2014 elections, but it looks like our real masters are vetoing that plan.


15 posted on 10/07/2013 9:59:16 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Nachum

The default the Chinese and the rest of the world fear is when Hard Working Americans no longer have the money in their budget’s that is diverted to Insurance. The crisis will affect all consumer spending, ranging from restaurant dining, buying Coke’s at the grocery, trips to the Mountains or Beach, Car purchases or new purchases of Cellular products. The big sucking sound you hear in the economy are those workers displaced from the Service Industry as it realigns into Healthcare.


16 posted on 10/07/2013 10:03:26 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Salgak

In this case the Bank has actually gotten a nice return from their investment already in the form of technology transfer and intellectual property rights fraud. They have already obtained more value from us than the amount of paper we owe them. By far. They have little to no investment in research to get where they are.


17 posted on 10/07/2013 10:14:07 AM PDT by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: smaug6
smaug6 said: "They have already obtained more value from us than the amount of paper we owe them."

This sounds like the kind of talk one might hear from a relative who has borrowed money and is about to justify not paying it back.

18 posted on 10/07/2013 10:19:46 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Nachum

The mere prospect of uncertainty about debt repayments is going to drive precious metals sharply higher.

There is currently a tacit agreement between East and West to keep the dollar’s reserve status unchallenged in exchange for keeping the price of Gold suppressed. It works to the advantage of both sides. China gets the Gold, and the West get to keep their welfare states.

But the prospect of debt default threatens this cosy and quasi-stable arrangement. China’s best way to enforce the payment of these debts would be to increase their rate of precious metals purchases over and above today’s already immense level. Enough to threaten a metal supply failure.

If I’m right in my guess we will see the price of Gold suddenly spike up to near $1415, then down again/flat again when the payments are assured. Or up to $5000+ if they are not.


19 posted on 10/07/2013 10:24:11 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: agere_contra
Massive corporate taxation, limitless legal vulnerability, crushing environmental regulation and pro-Union arbitrary Government: these are why industries have increasingly chosen to relocate away from the USA.

Pure Business School Bull Crap. You could eliminate all taxes and regs on US corporations that are into manufacturing and the tide of off shoring would not be stemmed one iota.

20 posted on 10/07/2013 10:25:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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