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No full driving license until 19: Ministers’ plan to slash deaths caused by young motorists (UK)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 17:31 EST, 10 October 2013 | Jason Groves

Posted on 10/10/2013 9:59:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The driving age could be raised to 18 in an attempt to slash the death toll on our roads.

And young people could be forced to wait until they are 19 before they qualify for a full license under radical plans being considered by ministers. Currently, they can be driving independently at 17.

The plans could also see all motorists aged under 30 banned from giving their friends a lift or driving at night for 12 months after they pass their test.

The proposals, prepared for the Department for Transport, would also see new motorists face a lower drink-drive limit for a year, regardless of their age. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 19yearsold; accidents; bac; drivinglicense

1 posted on 10/10/2013 9:59:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Wow . Got mine when I was 16 in CT in 1968 .


2 posted on 10/10/2013 10:12:51 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Olog-hai

Most farm kids are driving, on the farm, as young as 12. I think the stats would bear out that farm kids have very low death stats through driving.

At whatever age a person is allowed to drive, for the first couple of years, they will be at their most dangerous.


3 posted on 10/10/2013 10:35:31 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Olog-hai

The problem is more attitude than inexperience.


4 posted on 10/10/2013 10:42:37 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

In the UK the problem is also that the drinking age is I believe 16. Raising the driving age gives the teen-age alcoholics times to die from bicycle acidents


5 posted on 10/10/2013 11:02:40 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Olog-hai

This will not stop reckless drivers though.


6 posted on 10/10/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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To: Jonty30

In Australia kids are flying airplanes by 14.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 1:24:02 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Yes but when I lived there they couldn’t drive until 18, and then it was 6 months on “L” plates and 3 years on probation with the first year on “P” plates. Have they lowered the standards since then?


8 posted on 10/11/2013 2:27:36 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: cunning_fish

Sorry, slight correction, you could get your learners permit and drive supervised on “L” plates at 17, but couldn’t progress to “P” plates until 18.


9 posted on 10/11/2013 2:30:07 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: Fai Mao

18 is the age at which people can buy alcohol in the UK. You are allowed to drink beer or wine at 16 in pub or restaraunt under adult supervision and consume it with a meal.


10 posted on 10/11/2013 3:21:25 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Olog-hai

We should reraise the voting age to 21 or 25. Military personnel excepted.


11 posted on 10/11/2013 3:52:42 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Olog-hai
The driving age could be raised to 18 in an attempt to slash the death toll on our roads.

The central planning types who are behind this never think of the fact that during the first year on the road, teens will probably have more accidents regardless if that first year is 16, 17 or 18.

12 posted on 10/11/2013 3:54:45 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Driving is a requirement for suburban and rural life, where government interference in people’s lives is an annoyance. Attacking the automobile, raising taxes on gasoline, increasing the restrictions, making ownership painful is intended to make city living more competitive. City dwellers overwhelmingly vote socialist the world over so big government has an incentive to herd the voter cattle into them.


13 posted on 10/11/2013 4:12:30 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Fai Mao

18.


14 posted on 10/11/2013 4:31:31 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Graybeard58

That’s a very good idea. 18 only for military

The voting age was put at 18 during the Viet Nam War I believe it was related. And it is nota good thing nor is it necessary.

Driving age is too low around here. Tons of accidents here, not all young people Why push it ?

In Germany driving age is up there i don’t knw what but everyone has to learn how to drive what a concept.

Here, at driving school they want to know why the parents aren’t letting the kid drive more often Well, that’s why I have them here?

Learning how to drive is just not taken seriously. Deaths from traffic accidents (not including injury) per year on texas is over a thousand times as many as the toll from one of the shootings, and a lot more preventable

Cops enforce speeding alone not reckless driving. They just want money I guess not necessarily safer roads


15 posted on 10/11/2013 4:33:57 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Jonty30

You are exactly right.

Driving is a learned skill.

Just as drinking is a learned skill

All you do by moving the age limit up is change the age of the most endangered.


16 posted on 10/11/2013 5:19:28 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Fai Mao

IIRC, driving school is big business in Europe. They don’t teach it in public schools like we do. It’s expensive and it costs a lot more to get the license. I don’t know what it costs now, but years ago someone told me that the license alone was $500, and you could lose your license just after a couple tickets.


17 posted on 10/11/2013 6:46:15 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The problem is more attitude than inexperience.

I think those are the same thing.

The more you drive, the more accidents you will see, and the more close calls you will have. Seeing accidents and almost getting into wrecks cause drivers to realize the inherent dangers of driving, which improves attitudes.

The unlucky actually get into accidents, rather than having close calls, and are forced to learn from their own experience, rather than the bad experiences of others.

18 posted on 10/11/2013 6:53:21 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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