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To: tsowellfan

GOP stepped into an ambush and getting their asses handed to them. Once the shutdown of gov occurs over CR and now DL, GOP cannot pull out without heavy costs. Obama is a street fighting Chicago politician who knows the MSM is on his side. Once the fight starts Obama will not settle unless it is a clean CR and DL. Once the GOP starts the fight they cannot give Obama that because their base would be pissed off and sit out of the 2014 election or worst start a third party. If the trapped GOP stand their ground, Obama will crash the economy on 17 Oct 2013. Chaos will hit the US public, the MSM will raise the attacks on the GOP and Tea Party, Wall Street bankers will be screaming on their phones to their GOP reps. If the GOP does not pull out they can lose the election when the independents turn against them. Either way it is a win win situation for the Dems and a lose lose situation for the GOP. The right thing to do was not start the fight over the CR and DL. The GOP should have given the Dems what they want from the start and let the bad PR on Obamacare be the political foil to hurt the Dems in 2014. As I see it now, the GOP will be lucky to hold the House and I doubt they can retake the Senate in 2014. This whole move was dumb considering the nature of the MSM and the lessons learned from the 1995/96 shutdown.
I know there are freepers that will point out the GOP still held the House in 1996 shutdown, but mood of the US is different today. 2012 should have taught the GOP unemployed Americans are in no mood for BS. They do not want more chaos, they want solutions. Avoiding the CR and DL issue allows the Obamacare program be the cause of chaos and hardship front and center to the public. That is something real to many independents and buyers remorse Dems voters. Sometimes I wonder why I bother to donate money to the GOP (stupid party)!


17 posted on 10/13/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Fee
As I see it now, the GOP will be lucky to hold the House

That was a given long before the government shutdown discussions thanks to Speaker Boehner. You actually think the GOP would have held the House before this all began?

Sometimes I wonder why I bother to donate money to the GOP (stupid party)!

...and you're calling the GOP stupid?

21 posted on 10/13/2013 7:50:56 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Fee
Once the fight starts Obama will not settle unless it is a clean CR and DL.

And if the House doesn't fold either?
After a week or a month or a year?
What if the house doesn't care what the media says?
What if they don't care that they may not be reelected?
The side that wants it the most will prevail.

22 posted on 10/13/2013 7:53:27 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: Fee

The House GOP is sending a temporary debt limit hike to the Senate.

IF “Obama will crash the economy on 17 Oct 2013” then he and his master Harry Reid will get the blame.

This is the right fight at the right time. The only counter they have to the House debt limit bill is a debt limit bill from the Senate passed by “the nuclear option”.
Well, unless Harry pushes the susan Collins bill through.


23 posted on 10/13/2013 7:53:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Fee

Go play over at DU. Debbie Downers not needed.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 9:15:39 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Fee

The flaw in your logic is this, name one failed program that died the death it deserved. Medicare? Social Security? Dept. of fill in the blank? They don’t! They just keep failing like The Living Dead. Nothing the libturds have done has been rolled back. High time we started.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 3:51:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Fee
They do not want more chaos, they want solutions.

The chaos will force the solutions. I wish it weren't so, but I believe that's what we're facing.
38 posted on 10/14/2013 4:45:26 AM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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