[DannyTN]

The only way this is a victory is if one of the following happens as a result:

• more people vote for republicans in the future, to do something about the debt and/or obamacare.
• More people vote for conservative republicans instead of RINOs.
• More people see Obama for the dictatorial politician that he his due to the way the parks were handled.

This was a failure in the following ways:

• Republicans caved and got nothing in return.
• Republicans gave up some control over the debt limit.
• They allowed even more pork.
• They demonstrated they (KY) could be bought and thus are no better than the democrats.
• They gave the Federal employes a free vacation which will presumably end up costing the country more money than if the government continued operating.

[RitaOK]

I can’t quite tell if you are fox hole material or not.

[generally]

One small point that everyone seems to have overlooked - and I wish the conservative pundits would discuss this - is an observation about the death benefits for our fallen vets.

My first reaction was outrage. Then I found out that Fisher House (one of my favorite charitable organizations) stepped in to take care of the situation. I am still outraged by 0vomit’s schemes, by his smarmy reaction to getting caught, and by how he dealt with it, but my second reaction was that this proves how little we need the government.

What we need to hammer home is that America works just fine without the federal government. Real Americans step up and take care of what needs to be taken care of. We need the federal government for very little.

Despite 0vomit doing his best to hurt us during the shutdown, all he accomplished was to irritate, annoy, and enrage people. He was like a small boy poking at a hornet’s nest.

Not only can we take care of ourselves, we can do it much more effectively, efficiently, and cheaply than the government can. The government, especially the federal government, needs to get out of the education business and the charity (welfare) business. Along with getting out of the direct welfare business, they need to get out of the indirect welfare business which consists of creating overpaid do-nothing jobs for the politically connected and for the low info dem voters.