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GOP civil war: The Battle of Virginia
Wash Times ^ | 11/7/13 | Conor Higgins

Posted on 11/08/2013 5:18:42 AM PST by jimbo123

Democrats all over the country rejoice at the news that Terry McAuliffe defeated Republican Ken Cuccinelli in the race for Virginia governor on Tuesday. To them, this victory is a resounding triumph over the conservative right, and a clear message to all Americans that the radical ideas of the Tea Party have no place at the national or state level. To them, this is a loud and clear message that the Tea Party and their radical agenda are on their way out.

What is the real message of the Virginia gubernatorial race?

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Do you think it is possible, that in the midst of a GOP civil war, that the Establishment GOP would allow for Virginia to fall into the hands of a Democratic governor? It is possible, and it is not improbable either.

Virginia is home to thousands upon thousands of government employees and dozens of federal institutions, many of which are reported to have been adversely affected by the government shutdown. The government shutdown was orchestrated by Tea Party newcomers who have proven to be thorns in the side of the business as usual GOP’ers.

Perhaps in an effort to show the Democrats, who hold the bulk of power in Washington, that the Tea Party does not represent them, and in an effort to further cripple the national image of the Tea party, the Establishment surrendered Virginia. And not just surrendered Virginia, they worked with the Democrats to do it.

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KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; cuccinellibetrayed; gopcivilwar; gope; karlrove; rnc; teaparty
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This GOP-e is getting desperate. Karl Rove's fundraising continues to collapse and American Crossroads started running cheapo internet ads to trying to raise money because they can't afford TV, Radio or Direct Mail.

Fundraising for 2014 cycle:

Senate Conservatives Fund Summary 2014 PAC Summary Data Total Receipts $5,649,043

Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Summary 2014 PAC Summary Data Total Receipts $2,066,815

American Crossroads Summary (Rove) 2014 PAC Summary Data Total Receipts $1,856,588

Conservative Victory Fund Summary (Rove) 2014 PAC Summary Data Total Receipts $39,951

1 posted on 11/08/2013 5:18:42 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
The government shutdown was orchestrated by Tea Party newcomers

Do any of these political writers remember Harry Reid blocking votes in the Senate?

2 posted on 11/08/2013 5:28:34 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: jimbo123
The real message out of Virginia is that a Democrat candidate with all the advantages, including big dollars for advertising, everybody and their sister campaigning for him, and access to the Democratic party's get out the vote databases and volunteers couldn't even get 50% of the votes in the state. 53% of the voters said "no thanks" to the Democratic party.

Had the Republican candidate had nearly as many resources, and been able to bring even a small number of the libertarian voters into his camp he would have won.

A Republican who captured the majority of the libertarian voters, and turned out conservative voters as effectively as the Democrats turn out their base would have won by a large margin.

3 posted on 11/08/2013 5:31:44 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: jimbo123
Yep...lets squeeze the life out of the back stabbing SOBs...

Bub bye GOPe.....go F yourselves...

4 posted on 11/08/2013 5:36:02 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: MulberryDraw

I can’t help but notice your sig line. Do you read Karl Denninger?


5 posted on 11/08/2013 5:36:02 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: jimbo123
Do you think it is possible, that in the midst of a GOP civil war, that the Establishment GOP would allow for Virginia to fall into the hands of a Democratic governor?

It would not be the first time that the establishment Republican threw the race over to the Dems rather than let the Tea Partier win.

6 posted on 11/08/2013 5:38:08 AM PST by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: freeandfreezing
The big message is that conservatives have to get candidates who can stand up to the RINO machine. Cucinnelli's breakdown (somebody posted them yesterday) showed that he would've won easily it he weren't destroyed by single female voters.

Why wasn't he ready for the assault he'd get as anti-women's rights? That's how the opposition ALWAYS paints conservatives, yet Cucenelli was like a deer in the headlights when his views on women's rights were attacked. Like I wrote yesterday, a smarter candidate would've been ready with a press conference on his grandmother's grave (or whatever) with every female in his life there explaining how much he respects and cares about women.

He was within two points a week ago. Why didn't he keep on fighting? Whining about the RNC?....the way they backstabbed Ted Cruz's could've-been-success stopping Obamacare, he had to know that was the enemy he was against. Why was there no earlier background research exposing the RNC working against him and the dems supporting the Libertarian?

We need candidates who are articulate enough, smart enough, and dedicated to conservative values enough to get out there and win. The RINO and dem tactics are stale. The candidates we support should be ready for them.

grrrr.......

end of rant

7 posted on 11/08/2013 5:43:20 AM PST by grania
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I see Virginia as a huge loss both for Democrats and RINOs.

Not only did the Democrats have to pour far more resources into the McAuliffe campaign, but they also had to spend on the third party spoiler. And on top of that, the RINOs had to work to undermine Cuccinelli, diverting money away from him to support the already going to win Christie. And only *then* did they win.

At the national level, this means that there are almost insurmountable odds against the Democrats and RINOs pulling this off in the rest of the country. They just do not have the resources to do so.

By spending huge amounts of money, they “captured the hill”, from which they can only look at the mountain they must surmount.

Bottom line: if the Tea Party can take out a few to several more RINOs in the primaries, the RINOs will be so weakened that the conservatives may very well wrest control of the national convention away from them.

And this means that scoundrels like Karl Rove will be pretty well cut off from the gravy train after that. He will get hired by some corporation until they figure out that he is dead weight.


8 posted on 11/08/2013 5:43:48 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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McAuliffes win say to me that Virginia has looked upon Maryland their sister State and decided they want what Maryland has.

A tax and spend Democrat governor, higher taxes, same sex marriage, more illegal immigrants, and millionaires moving to other states . Oh, and watch out Virginia, your gun rights are about to go out the door.

Just remember you get what you vote for.


9 posted on 11/08/2013 5:48:35 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Oberon

Yes, but I saw that line in a Mish Shedlock post.


10 posted on 11/08/2013 6:05:13 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: grania

Great rant! you are absolutely right we conservatives need build momentum away from the RINO wing. For decades now we have been told to hold our collective noses and vote for the likes of Mccain,Romney,Dole.I would love to see the day when Karl Rove has to hold his nose or suck his thumb and vote for Ted Cruz! Which leads me to another question WOULD Rove and his RINO compatriots vote for a Tea Party candidate if there was no other choice ? I honestly don’t believe they would.What Say You?


11 posted on 11/08/2013 6:05:53 AM PST by johnny reb (When in the course of human events.....)
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would Rove and his compatriots vote for a Tea Party candidate?

Absolutely not. Look at what happened when Murkowski and Lieberman lost primaries. The establishment ran them as third party and they hung on to their Senate seats. There should be a law that once someone loses a primary they're no longer eligible to run that time in that race.

There's no difference between Christie and hillary. That's why the elitists are going full-throttle now. If they can get that matchup, they've won.

12 posted on 11/08/2013 6:14:20 AM PST by grania
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To: Venturer

Virginia is unfortunately held hostage by the DC beltway /fed employees and their fed paychecks, and the urban ghetto rats and their freebies.

good news is the house of delegates is republican so the liberals can feel good about the governerhsip, or “feel safer” with their dreams of gun control, Mcauliff is on an island, he wont get anything done that the libs would like.


13 posted on 11/08/2013 6:18:49 AM PST by tm61 (Election 2012: we find it IS possible, to polish a turd.)
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"Virginia is home to thousands upon thousands of government employees and dozens of federal institutions"

This has been often noted and illustrated by a map of the Virginia county election results.

That we have people who voted for a Demonrat like McAuliffe working in the federal bureaucracy is like having Nazis working in the Pentagon during WWII.

14 posted on 11/08/2013 6:20:27 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

DIMs/LIBs/GOPe are like insects. They are termites that relentlessly behind the scenes undermine Free America. Never again give money to, vote for or in any way support any of these subhuman degenerates. Oh, yes...Have a nice day!


15 posted on 11/08/2013 6:25:03 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Venturer

And we voted for a conservative, agenda-blocking House of Delegates where each district that was conservative sent a pro-gun rights, anti-Obozocare, pro-baby voting member...
You are right. Just like 2012, we in VA voted to have a clown, buffoon, idiot, self-serving, corrupt lying sh!t head as our leader and one branch of govt to screw things up for him....
How do you say “grid lock” in espanol?


16 posted on 11/08/2013 6:40:54 AM PST by matginzac
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I see Virginia as a huge loss both for Democrats and RINOs.

Agreed. A victory for the RINO's, but at huge long term costs. They have permanently alienated the TEA party. They have created a situation that in GOP primary contests the party will be split for the general election. They can not count on the "TEA Party" to come home...

17 posted on 11/08/2013 6:42:56 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: MulberryDraw; All

What happened is clear. The Liberterian again played the spoilers role and gave the victory to the leftist Democrat.

The idea that the Liberterians take votes from both parties is completely misleading. 95% of the votes that they take are from conservatives.


18 posted on 11/08/2013 6:44:46 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: grania
You are correct. The Democrat couldn't even get 50% of the people to vote for him, so most people were looking for another candidate to vote for.

Every conservative candidate needs to have a plan for victory that doesn't depend on the press or the RNC or anyone but the voters supporting them. Conservative candidates also need a network of supporters, volunteers, and campaign database services like those enjoyed by the Democrats. We're got our work cut out for us!

19 posted on 11/08/2013 6:52:57 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: marktwain
The idea that the Liberterians take votes from both parties is completely misleading. 95% of the votes that they take are from conservatives.

Which is precisely why Republicans need to run candidates that can win those votes. Except for the 5% purists, the rest of the Libertarian voters will vote for and support conservative candidates. But they won't vote for statists or RINOs, and they are attracted to constitutionalists more than social issue conservatives.

Some careful planning and outreach can win many of the Libertarian voters since for most of them they and conservatives share a similar goal - more freedom and less government intrusion into society.

A constitution and freedom loving candidate will get Libertarian votes even if the candidate does not agree fully with many Libertarian goals. A RINO won't get "moderates" or Libertarians.

20 posted on 11/08/2013 7:00:21 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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