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How Obamacare Accomplishes The Unthinkable
Washington Post and The Federalist ^ | November 13, 2013 | Benjamin Domenech, publisher of The Federalist

Posted on 11/17/2013 12:12:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 11/17/2013 10:08:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems are strong no matter what, with the low info voter, the education system and the press on their side.


21 posted on 11/17/2013 1:04:27 PM PST by lurk
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To: jdege

Make self-pay pricing for procedures the same as 3rd party pricing (insurance, medicare, etc.) or at least require that the pricing for procedures be available up front.

Make it legal to sell a hospitalization policy where insurance isn’t involved for routine doctors visits.


22 posted on 11/17/2013 1:05:12 PM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
If the latest poll numbers and enrollment figures are to be believed, we could be witnessing a political achievement unequaled in modern political history: the complete demolition of one party’s long-term dominance on an issue area – the Democrats’ ownership of the health care issue – in the space of a few months. Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law.

23 posted on 11/17/2013 1:14:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Junk Silver

Right on the money!!! Think back to the term “Universal Healthcare”....Pelosi and Reid plus a number of RINOs jumped on that band-wagon until that also got mired up in the political mud. I wish Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, O’Reilly would join those non-elites who have been and are now explaining that the Obama trinity.(Jarrett, Michelle,& Plouffe)could not have ‘brilliantly’ botched the 2011+page Affordable Health Care/Obamacare without a plan to do so intentionally.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 1:28:51 PM PST by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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To: yoe

You said...
“I do believe Obamacare was meant to fail causing an avalanche towards Medicade aka Single-payer or Universal Healthcare”

That may be true intially but it’s not failing the way they hoped it would.


25 posted on 11/17/2013 1:39:36 PM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The argument Landrieu is making on behalf of the bill will appeal to many Senate Democrats.

Possible campaign slogans: "I'm too stupid to actually read a bill before I vote on it, so put me back in the Senate..."

"Those mean Republicans printed the bill in cursive so I could not read the bill before I voted on it"

"You're so stupid you will vote for me again anyway, so here is more free stuff"

26 posted on 11/17/2013 1:41:09 PM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: LMAO; All

The thing that may save us from the malice of this administration is their arrogance and incompetence.


27 posted on 11/17/2013 2:09:39 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law

Unfortunately, we may have passed the point where public opinion matters.

Regardless, we fight on.

28 posted on 11/17/2013 2:13:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the complete demolition of one party’s long-term dominance on an issue area “

This result seemed natural to me in contemplating the new presidents’ eventual situation if he got what he wanted in this matter. They (the Evil Left) had pretty much gotten away with distorting the Culture of America beyond any recognition over the last 68 years but a ‘successful’ ObamaCare MUST end in collapse of their political fortunes (to say nothing of the economy and our healthcare system.

Again and again I wondered: what were they thinking would happen?

A proper tactic would have undermined the system S L O W L Y over approximately a generation, sucking in dependents as it went.

Either they are going down or force enters into the calculation soon.


29 posted on 11/17/2013 2:22:31 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: sickoflibs
...Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law. And that’s not all: Only 19 percent of American voters say the quality of care they and their families receive will improve in the next year because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), while 43 percent say it will get worse...

ping

30 posted on 11/17/2013 5:24:26 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: Yosemitest
...Quinnipiac finds that young people trust Republicans in Congress more on health policy than the president; that a plurality of Hispanics, long the most pro-Obamacare faction, are now opposed to the law; and that overwhelming majorities (70+ percent) of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are in favor of delaying the law. And that’s not all: Only 19 percent of American voters say the quality of care they and their families receive will improve in the next year because of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), while 43 percent say it will get worse...

This will lift your spirits... ping

31 posted on 11/17/2013 5:27:25 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Republicans will “fix” this.
That’s the big picture I get.
Not good.


32 posted on 11/17/2013 5:32:56 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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