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Provision in Obamacare Likely to Force Up Cost of Many Family Plans
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 12/01/2013 8:45:17 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/01/2013 8:45:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Good. The only way this POS law will be overturned is when enough of the idiots who keep voting for the Rats have had enough and vote in politicians who will rescind it.


2 posted on 12/01/2013 8:53:06 AM PST by Signalman
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Monthly payments go up, annual deductible triples or quadruples. You will now pay for all services up to the deductible. Oh wait, abortion and birth control are free. What a great idea!
We all know most marginally paid people have $5,000 to $8,000 in spare cash to cover that deductible each year.
Yes, you pay higher monthly payments, and the insurance pays nothing until you pay your deductible EACH year. What’s not to like/S


3 posted on 12/01/2013 8:53:09 AM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Kaslin

Why, all of a sudden, is this abomination called the Affordable Care Act? It is neither affordable nor does it improve health care.

It is Obamacare. He wanted it; he owns it. Never for one second let him get away from that.


4 posted on 12/01/2013 9:01:11 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Kaslin
The "Affordable Care Act"? Did they pass a second bill when I wasn't looking?

Cuz this is OBAMACARE. PERIOD.

5 posted on 12/01/2013 9:16:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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GMTA


6 posted on 12/01/2013 9:16:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Signalman

Good. The only way this POS law will be overturned is when enough of the idiots who keep voting for the Rats have had enough and vote in politicians who will rescind it.


The problem is, who is going to repeal obamacare? The GOP leadership has shown no sign they will ever go nuclear in opposition to kenyancare. They have steadfastly refused to engage the Dems on kenyancare. There is no reason to believe that will change.

In fact, many of the big GOP donors WANT socialized medicine. What the beltway GOP really day dream about it is “fixing it” and all the lobbyist payola that will generate.

Unless we get a POTUS like Cruz to brow beat the GOPe into repealing it we are stuck with socialized medicine.


7 posted on 12/01/2013 9:24:04 AM PST by lodi90
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To: NTHockey
Why, all of a sudden, is this abomination called the Affordable Care Act?

Doesn't matter. Obama's name is inextricably linked to it. The Dems should have called it the "Public Health Care Act" or something, because the people are definitely going to scoff at the 'affordable' bit. There is no lipstick available that can dress up this pig.

8 posted on 12/01/2013 10:23:52 AM PST by Right Brother
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Starting in 2015, companies employing 50 or more people must offer affordable health-care coverage to anyone working 30 hours a week or more.

"Affordable" means different things to different people, but the median household income in the US was $51,017 in 2012, so a health insurance bill of $20,000 is probably more than a "big ****ing deal" (to quote VP Biden) to most households.

I don't see socialized medicine, I see an epic Chicxulub asteroid impact. (Don't get sick for the next few years!)

9 posted on 12/01/2013 10:25:13 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Kaslin

Obama simply playing the Knockout Game with Obamacare.
If you are the wrong party you will be Knockedout!


10 posted on 12/01/2013 10:37:40 AM PST by FreedBird
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To: Kaslin
First, do no harm.


11 posted on 12/01/2013 10:41:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 9422WMR; All

Birth control is not a great idea? So you like paying for more poor kids welfare, emergency room visits, etc?


12 posted on 12/01/2013 10:51:14 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Sooth2222
Affordable (in the govenment's eyes) means 9.5% of annual salary compared to the cost of individual coverage. If an employer provides that, then no matter how expensive family coverage is they still can't get subsidized rates on Obamacare. This will be huge because it is people in lower income jobs that tend to have employee only coverage.

I used to think the option was for employees to get their employers to dump coverage, but the penalty is $2000 per employee of your total workforce, even if only one employee is without coverage. It is all or nothing.

13 posted on 12/01/2013 10:58:06 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Travis McGee
LONDON, June 21, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An eminent British doctor told a meeting of the Royal Society of Medicine in London that every year 130,000 elderly patients that die while under the care of the National Health Service (NHS) have been effectively euthanized by being put on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP),a protocol for care of the terminally ill that he described as a “death pathway.”

Scaled to the size of the US population...that gives over 750,000 euthanizing events a year.

14 posted on 12/01/2013 10:59:11 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Sooth2222
Oops, didn't turn off the underline.

Affordable (in the govenment's eyes) means 9.5% of annual salary compared to the cost of individual coverage. If an employer provides that, then no matter how expensive family coverage is they still can't get subsidized rates on Obamacare. This will be huge because it is people in lower income jobs that tend to have employee only coverage.

I used to think the option was for employees to get their employers to dump coverage, but the penalty is $2000 per employee of your total workforce, even if only one employee is without coverage. It is all or nothing.

15 posted on 12/01/2013 10:59:31 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: gleeaikin; 9422WMR
Birth control is not a great idea? So you like paying for more poor kids welfare, emergency room visits, etc?

Practicing Catholics, oppose b/c on moral grounds. Why should they be forced to pay for someone elses b/c? I'm 68 and my wife is 60, why should we be forced to pay for someone elses b/c?

A better question is, why should any free American be forced to pay for health insurance period?

The O.P. opposed "free" b/c not b/c.

16 posted on 12/01/2013 11:02:27 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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Because we are all forced to pay for more costly emergency room visits? Why should I be forced to pay for someone elses Viagra?


17 posted on 12/01/2013 11:06:34 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: spokeshave
Scaled to the size of the US population...that gives over 750,000 euthanizing events a year.

Huge upside for SocSec and Medicare funding. The unspoken part of Obamacare. When the kiddies whine about Grandma's early demise, the regime will offer up some Groupons for student loan forgiveness.

18 posted on 12/01/2013 11:08:49 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Kaslin

A quirk of the Affordable Care Act could make it more appealing for companies to raise rates for family coverage than for individuals, said Vivian Ho, a Rice University health-care economist.

Well I bought an Individual policy for our 29 year old son when he was 27. We never filed a claim on it. His was cancelled.

The company Health.net offered a new plan at twice the price and deductible going from $4500 a year to $6350 per year. Oh joy! NOT! They added mammograms and birth control pills, and pedicatric vision/dental - none of which can a single MAN use.


19 posted on 12/01/2013 11:09:38 AM PST by buffyt (Abortion is murder. It is not a choice, it is a CHILD of GOD.)
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Amen, Amen & Amen! You are RIGHT! We LOVE Ted C at our house.


20 posted on 12/01/2013 11:10:36 AM PST by buffyt (Abortion is murder. It is not a choice, it is a CHILD of GOD.)
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