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To: Travis McGee
LONDON, June 21, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An eminent British doctor told a meeting of the Royal Society of Medicine in London that every year 130,000 elderly patients that die while under the care of the National Health Service (NHS) have been effectively euthanized by being put on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP),a protocol for care of the terminally ill that he described as a “death pathway.”

Scaled to the size of the US population...that gives over 750,000 euthanizing events a year.

14 posted on 12/01/2013 10:59:11 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: spokeshave
Scaled to the size of the US population...that gives over 750,000 euthanizing events a year.

Huge upside for SocSec and Medicare funding. The unspoken part of Obamacare. When the kiddies whine about Grandma's early demise, the regime will offer up some Groupons for student loan forgiveness.

18 posted on 12/01/2013 11:08:49 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: spokeshave

Now serving grape Flavoraid at a nursing home near you.


24 posted on 12/01/2013 11:47:18 AM PST by Organic Panic
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Scaled to a population of over 300,000,000, then 750,000 or 7.5 to 3,000 annually sounds like a normal or low death rate, not euthanazia.

I cared for my 89 year old mother when she was dying of congestive heart failure as the pig valve she received 10 years earlier began to fail. She was too frail for another surgery. I also cared for my husband who died of Alzheimers. The last 3 years were 24/7/365. Neither wanted to die in a hospital hooked up to IV and stomach tubes and they signed advanced directives years earlier when they were lucid. My mother knew she was dying and suffered from anxiety. My cousin, a doctor who knew and cared about my mother, suggested a mild tranquilizer which was a big help. When my husband finally collapsed and could not walk any more, the doctors who had seen him 3 months earlier sent me home hospice care (a nurse visited daily to check on him and give me advice). After a few days he did not want to eat. My son and I talked with the doctors. They said, feed him if he wants food, give water if he wants it. He did not, he died 5 days later at home in our bed. There is a time when dying is normal, we must learn to accept that and help the way the loved one wants us to. The Red Cross and others should offer classes on home care of the dying. Many want to die at home, but family do not feel able to do this—fear and ignorance.

I decided to check out the Liverpool Care Pathway. There are many links. Here is one about comparative testing, and an important comment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2461376/Liverpool-Care-Pathway-little-benefit-study-finds.html

Actually, dying people don’t feel thirst. The dying person follows their body cues just like a living one does. Their body is shutting down and doesn’t want food or fluid. Trying to force that into their body is cruel and causes them to become ill and vomit, and that usually ends up in their lungs. Fluids cause overload and create pain and breathing difficulties. There seems to be a lack of knowledge about the dying process. It is part of the life cycle. When your body is done so are you. We can keep you free of pain and other symptoms if you have them. But we can’t change the course you are on. The ethical solution is to maintain comfort only.


25 posted on 12/01/2013 11:49:40 AM PST by gleeaikin
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