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However, if you believe that man is not a social construct, but that man has a nature, you cannot logically believe that human rights come from government. "Human rights are unchanging because they are based on the nature of man, which never changes. Government might discover and protect those rights, but cannot create those rights. That is what the founding fathers believed, and what the progressives have discarded."

I love that quote.

1 posted on 12/12/2013 6:50:06 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
First things first.

I want my Second Amendment rights fully restored before I'll consider any discussion about any possible new "rights".

2 posted on 12/12/2013 6:59:59 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ReformationFan

the government can create an environment that fosters respect for our God Given rights guaranteed and nothing more or less


3 posted on 12/12/2013 7:01:36 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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When what they do does not parallel the principles of God, they are asking for trouble. They may have trouble enough obeying; but bucking God will reap the whirlwind.

That being said, the gospel approach to sex sin today is truly anemic. A favorite factoid of mine is that professed believers have no better statistics on the durability of their marriages today, than the general population does.

“Beloved, this should not be.”

Just because you’re (the rhetorical you) heterosexual and you’re staying with one wife, though, you still might be sexually sinning! Why? Because you might not be offering it to God! You may be doing it selfishly!


4 posted on 12/12/2013 7:02:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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“Can government ‘create’ gay rights?”

Let’s skip discussion, and just say no as government can’t “create” gay rights, only special rights the rest of us won’t have.

I doubt I want any of their rights, or lefts anyway.


5 posted on 12/12/2013 7:03:13 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ReformationFan; savagesusie; Mrs. Don-o

ping


7 posted on 12/12/2013 7:03:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

The Civil War amendments proved they can. And they weren’t even ratified per the Constitution. It seems we have a government with no limitation.


14 posted on 12/12/2013 7:19:06 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: ReformationFan

Government cannot create rights...
Government can only create privileges..

Few know the difference..


15 posted on 12/12/2013 9:11:33 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: ReformationFan

Ironic that the same people who want the government out of the bedroom want the same government in their kitchens.....

I say kick the damn gov off everyones property.


16 posted on 12/12/2013 9:29:40 PM PST by GraceG
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Ironic that the same people who want the government out of the bedroom want the same government in their kitchens.....

I say kick the damn gov off everyones property.


17 posted on 12/12/2013 9:29:41 PM PST by GraceG
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To: ReformationFan; All

State governments have the 10th Amendment-protected power to establish gay rights, such as gay marriage, as long as such rights don’t interfere with constitutionally enumerated rights, Section 1 of the 14th Amendment prohibiting the states from unreasonably abridging constitutonally protected rights.

On the other hand, the federal government can only protect those rights which the states have expressly protected by the Constitution. This is evidenced by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment in conjunction with Section 5 of that amendment.

Also note that the four voting rights amendments, the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments, expressly grant Congress the power to legislatively protect such rights.

Again, the states have 10th Amendment authority to establish rights as long as such rights don’t interefere with constitutonal rights. But Congress is limited to protecting only those rights which the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect imo.

Finally, just as corrupt federal lawmakers buy votes from low-information voters by promising such voters federal spending programs which are based on constitutionally nonexistant federal government powers, Obamacare an example, Congress likewise buys votes from such voters by promising them “civil rights” which Congress has no constitutional authority to establish. And Congress gets away with doing such things because many patriots themselves evidently don’t know the simple rules of the Constitution.


22 posted on 12/13/2013 5:20:42 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ReformationFan

Placemark


24 posted on 12/14/2013 2:20:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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