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To: SkyPilot
Federal employees will have to contribute more to their pensions.

No doubt Patty Murray demanded in return a concession from the military.

What I find amazing is that we got no proposal for income tax hikes from the Democrats even with a socialist Senate and President. And no unemployment extension.

2 posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:30 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

RINO Season!


4 posted on 12/16/2013 10:15:31 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: what's up
New Federal employees will have to pay more, but the current ones were grandfathered.

When Ryan was asked why they didn't grandfather military who have already retired, or currently serving military, this is what he said yesterday:

But why not grandfather benefits for current servicemembers, like Ryan does for Americans over the age of 55 in his plan to reform Medicare? Ryan replied that grandfathering wouldn't achieve the savings the military needs...

This is the Republican "budget genius?"

6 posted on 12/16/2013 10:20:39 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: what's up

“Federal employees will have to contribute more to their pensions.”

The difference is that only Federal Employee new hires will have to contribute more to their pensions, NOT current employees, and they will know this going in -— whereas, the military COLA cut is to the retirement benefits of those already drawing benefits, and those still serving, despite the promises that were made at the time they were earning those retirement benefits.


14 posted on 12/16/2013 10:56:12 AM PST by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
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To: what's up

As usual, bad publicity. The cuts affect only people under the age of 62 who are working another job.

You can retire after 20 years, and many people retire at the age of 40, get their full pension, and of course go on to a second career. This is also true in many civilian jobs, too (law enforcement, education, etc.).

Paying these employed people a “pension” takes money away from the elderly or from lifers, that is, people who actually stayed in the military or job until retirement age.


19 posted on 12/16/2013 11:09:58 AM PST by livius
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To: what's up
re: the unemployment extension.

Pelosi already said it will be done next year as a separate bill. And the veterans will get their benefits restored. Thus, this bill is actually a huge spending INCREASE.

The point is pretty obvious. It's open season "now or never" to stop conservative ideas from being enacted. The RINOs and dems did this together to try to destroy their real enemy, constitutional conservatives.

57 posted on 12/16/2013 3:04:46 PM PST by grania
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To: what's up

“Federal employees will have to contribute more to their pensions.
No doubt Patty Murray demanded in return a concession from the military.

What I find amazing is that we got no proposal for income tax hikes from the Democrats even with a socialist Senate and President. And no unemployment extension.”

I have to like this deal. Ok, it would have been nice to get everything you want all the time. But only spoiled children think like that.

Fact is, we got a lot of stuff we like and had to give the other side something too.


94 posted on 12/19/2013 9:22:18 PM PST by staytrue
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