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Good editorial. Reminds me of when Ronald Reagan said he opposed the overturning of U.S. anti-sodomy laws because of the Pandora's box it would open.
1 posted on 12/22/2013 3:42:31 PM PST by ReformationFan
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***I cannot blame Russia, India, or any nation for reacting to what they see in the West with measures that I would ostensibly oppose on principle.***

Nor I, Mr. Lopez, nor I.


2 posted on 12/22/2013 3:48:20 PM PST by Paulie
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I really have to wonder if the treatment of homosexuals in society has been cyclical throughout history, where it was tolerated for a while until the behavior got out of control and threatened the stability of civilization. We can see that there are many in that community who aren’t satisfied with merely coexisting or being tolerated, but want preferential treatment and an elimination of any criticism of their lifestyle choice. The trend seems to be going beyond acceptance and will force some sort of a confrontation with the majority of the population who are not homosexuals.


3 posted on 12/22/2013 3:57:47 PM PST by CASchack
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They have learned by watching us and are smart enough not to start down that road. American leadership, on the other hand, has learned nothing from watching the failures of communism and socialism.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 3:57:55 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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What happened in India is complicated.

A lower court (High Court of Delhi), during a case, ruled the old laws against unnatural sex (which includes sodomy) null and void since the court saw them as an infringement of human freedom, about a year ago. When the case went to the Supreme Court of India through public petition, it ruled about two weeks ago that the courts have no power to amend constitutional laws and the separation of powers among the executive, legislature and the judiciary necessitated the Supreme Court overturning the High Court ruling, thereby reinstating the laws making homosexual acts illegal in India. This is where things stand today.

Now that the Supreme Court has directed that the laws be amended by the legislature, it has become a political issue. The current government of India is centre-right. They are unpopular and the opinion poll prediction is that the right-wing nationalists are going to win the general elections next year. The current government wants to change the laws against homosexuality before it is voted out.

However, as a deeply conservative country, especially on matters pertaining to sexuality and marriage, the homosexual activists have a bleak outlook for their influence in India.


5 posted on 12/22/2013 4:07:34 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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I work for a major defense contractor.

My health insurance plan, which I liked and wanted to keep, was cancelled this year because of obamacare, and the replacement plan offers less coverage for a greater monthly premium and higher deductibles.

Additionally, there are higher monthly payments for people that smoke, and people who are obese.

Oddly, there is NOT a higher premium for gays, who's lifestyle choices are just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than those of smokers and the obese.

Why is that?

6 posted on 12/22/2013 4:11:19 PM PST by Washi
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I must take exception to the manner in which the author states that he can not blame Russia and India for taking on the gays, using a phrase that conveys a lack of conviction, almost apologetic in a sense that is less than emphatic in belief. I can not blame them? Not only do I not blame them, what he should have said deserved to be stated in language much more supportive, indignant and unambiguous by saying I applaud their sense of righteous indignation, I admire the morally upstanding position they've taken in not yielding to the political pressure that is the depravity, abomination that defines the gay life-style.
7 posted on 12/22/2013 4:15:25 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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For a society to continue, it must promote and respect and reward reproduction, care of offspring, sanitary health. Need more be said? Russia et al seem to think so.


8 posted on 12/22/2013 4:17:31 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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Blame Russia?? I praise them and only wish we would do something in this country to slow them down.

Not many Americans have a problem with homosexuals who keep their preference to themselves, But it’s gone way past that now.


10 posted on 12/22/2013 4:40:39 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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I do disagree with his characterization of a 19 year old as a “child” because they can’t buy alcohol in the USA. They are legally emancipated, can join the army, vote, buy a gun (at least a long gun), and get married. And until the Feds pressured the states they could buy alcohol in some states. They are responsible for their own decisions.


12 posted on 12/22/2013 4:48:58 PM PST by Hugin
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Incidentally, it has been postulated that the President is himself a homosexual (Bathouse Barry). The President is a liar and a conman who conned the idiot populace into voting for him. President Obama skills as a conman can be explained by the worlds of those bright, queer admen, Kirk and Pill, who wrote the homosexual brainwashing tract, "After the Ball."

Kirk and pill noted that men who have sex with men are excellent frauds and conmen even as they blame it on society's prejudice against homosexuals. We are in for some truly horrific times all the way around.

15 posted on 12/22/2013 6:20:44 PM PST by Stepan12 (T)
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I cannot blame Russia, India, or any nation for reacting to what they see in the West with measures that I would ostensibly oppose on principle. Russia's ban on promoting homosexuality to children does impinge on free speech

Since "the West" does not necessarily represent the pinnacle of morality, the above statement is incomprehensible. It's not as if Russia and India have decreed the summary execution of any effeminate found in the streets! The Russians at least haven't even criminalized homosexual behavior, only the recruitment of the young into the lifestyle.
Really hate being a Neanderthal but, what am I missing?

To be clear, this self-righteous apotheosis of free speech is downright bizarre in a country where the wrong use of "free speech" would earn me a cordial visit from your friendly neighborhood Secret Service (he who has an ear to hear, let him hear) even in an anonymous message board. Bottom line, there's no principle to which I subscribe that would cause me to oppose the measures taken by Russia and India.

16 posted on 12/22/2013 6:50:18 PM PST by stormhill
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Gays are riding on the lie that they are victim of oppression when historically it is gay governments and closet gay leaders who are the worst offenders... starting with Nero, Islam to name a few.


19 posted on 12/22/2013 7:18:46 PM PST by lavaroise
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