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Hospital agrees to let Jahi McMath family take girl
SF Chronicle ^ | 03 Jan 14 | Henry Lee

Posted on 01/03/2014 4:17:39 PM PST by Drew68

Edited on 01/03/2014 4:20:22 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The agreement, described in the Oakland courtroom of Alameda County Superior Court Judge Evelio Grillo, is the latest development in an unusual battle between the hospital and the girl's family, who has rejected declarations that Jahi is dead as a result of brain death.


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To: txhurl

Prayers... yes...


101 posted on 01/03/2014 11:06:01 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: exDemMom

I think the “Dem” part of your moniker is guiding you now....


102 posted on 01/03/2014 11:07:09 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Marie

Just how do you get a cadaver to eat?


103 posted on 01/04/2014 12:40:37 AM PST by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: PAR35

Who cares. It only $250,000.


104 posted on 01/04/2014 12:41:58 AM PST by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: ifinnegan

HIPPA does not apply to the dead.


105 posted on 01/04/2014 12:47:09 AM PST by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: antceecee

Sorry. If your cousin was brain dead, then he wasn’t in a coma. He had detectable brain activity the whole time he was in a coma. This girl doesn’t. She’s dead.


106 posted on 01/04/2014 6:47:41 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Domangart

That’s only for the non-economic losses (pain and suffering and emotional distress). Economic losses can also be recovered.


107 posted on 01/04/2014 7:33:26 AM PST by PAR35
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To: antceecee
I think the “Dem” part of your moniker is guiding you now....

There is nothing conservative or compassionate in keeping a corpse ventilated so that it has the semblance of life. Maintaining the corpse ventilated in this manner only gives the family false hope, where there is no cause for hope. The child is dead, and nothing can be done to change that.

108 posted on 01/04/2014 8:08:14 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: antceecee

Freeping while intoxicated is a fool’s errand. Have another cocktail.


109 posted on 01/04/2014 8:38:13 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: PAR35

If you are a lawyer, retake the bar..


110 posted on 01/04/2014 11:32:22 AM PST by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: Vermont Lt

It might, but some pseudo-diffident/irreverent Catholics (like your interlocutor) appreciate this comment, and the preceding one. Thank you for the laughs. Happy new Year to you!


111 posted on 01/04/2014 2:21:06 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: PAR35

I guess I am looking at it from the hospital’s perspective.

I get the sense the parents are in a state of denial—not lining up for a pay date. I can appreciate their anguish. I feel horrible for them. They are grasping for a miracle that won’t happening.


112 posted on 01/04/2014 5:08:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Marie

Thanks for the links in post 46!


113 posted on 01/04/2014 11:55:11 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All

Heard of Zack Dunlop? He was declared dead, and authorities wanted his organs, but his family didn’t agree. A nurse relative tested his reflexes, and he reacted this time. Zack Dunlop later told his story on the Today Show.

Countless stories like this.


114 posted on 01/04/2014 11:56:28 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: goodwithagun

...”She is neither in a coma nor in a permanent vegitative state”....

I tend not to believe the mothers or families statements about their daughter.. that she is responsive in a way which is more than reflexes common when a body is kept on life support.

Also the hospital ‘agreed’ awhile back their daughters body could be removed to another facility...but even in this article the family is and was un-willinglly to name any facility that would take her so the hospital could corodinate the transfer.

As far as a lawsuit goes...the family’s been wearing t-shirts etc. just as was done with Martin’s plight....so of course there will be lawsuits and loads of news going on for weeks and weeks.

I think Lawyers are taking advantage of these peoples inability to accept their daughters death now....dragging this out is not going to bring her back but it will surely benefit the mother and father as it has to date.


115 posted on 01/05/2014 12:13:18 AM PST by caww
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To: exDemMom

My brother was on life support for a time, while his body filled up with fluids to the point he was unrecognizable.


116 posted on 01/05/2014 12:15:56 AM PST by caww
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To: Drew68

Personally I wouldn’t allow my child to remain on life support as in this case.....if Physicians stated they were braindead...and no activity that would indicate a recovery... I would trust God and unhook them.

Further I wouldn’t make it a public issue either. Nor stand before a mic giving news conferences etc. Some things are just too personal...this situation is and should have remained personal and private.


117 posted on 01/05/2014 12:20:56 AM PST by caww
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for your posts...


118 posted on 01/05/2014 12:35:52 AM PST by caww
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To: Marie

The “rights” of the parents have not been trampled....in fact it appears the hospital staff and personnel have gone out of their way, from the beginning, to assist this family well.

If a family is in denial of their child’s death there is absolutely nothing that will convince them “everything possible” has been done for their child. They will never “Know” all was done or not.....until they come out of their denial...and in this case possible they will never accept all was done for their daughter.

Further this was not an “Impossible” situation....Hope is often confused with wishful thinking. Hope means there’s evidence which supports that...wishful thinking generally is all emotional and facts are left out unless they support the wishful thinking.

This has gone way past any hope for organ donor. Organs have time limits in which they can be used. They forfeited that right when they extended this situation despite the ‘several’ physicians who examined here. How many would be enough to convince the parents is the real question...and of course there would never be enough until one would agree with them.

All realize how difficult this situation is for the parents...but their child is not there anymore.


119 posted on 01/05/2014 12:51:28 AM PST by caww
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To: antceecee

Only liberals can talk about healthy living? She was obese and had surgery to remedy a problem caused by her obesity, so yes her weight is an issue. You’re as much a loon as the other FReeper ranting about people coming back from brain death.


120 posted on 01/06/2014 4:21:54 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people's than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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