Posted on 02/09/2014 8:41:30 AM PST by Nachum
ormer Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Friday that if talks he held with Palestinians in 2008 had produced a peace deal, it would have forced tens of thousands of Jewish settlers to leave their homes in the West Bank.
If a deal had been reached at the time, it would also not have included an Israeli presence in the Jordan Valley, Olmert said.
More than five years on, the fate of the Jewish settlements and the Jordan Valley, along with recognition of Israel as the Jewish national homeland, are key sticking points in the ongoing Mideast peace talks brokered by US Secretary of State John Kerry, aimed at establishing an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel.
In an interview with Channel 2, Olmert said that in his opinion, a deal in 2008 would have made "about 80,000" settlers leave their homes.
Asked if Israel would be able to evacuate 80,000 settlers today, Olmert said: "I have no doubt that it is possible."
The plan back then, supported by then-Defense Minister Ehud Barak and presented to the Americans, did not include an Israeli military presence in the Jordan Valley, an area in the West Bank that borders Jordan.
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Olmert is Israel’s Joe Biden. An idiot who never shuts up. Fully bought into the psychotic idea that making territory Judenrein will turn the Palis Amish.
These settlements never made sense in the first place. The Israelis ALWAYS knew they were going to give up the land so why build the settlements to only abandon them some years later? So much energy, money and time thrown away.
Kinda misleading headline.
Israel perhaps made a mistake in EVER giving
back any land to it’s enemies.
And the land of “L’Chaim” makes itself ever less so with increasing, state sponsored abortion.
Olmert’s land for war plan
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Friday that if talks he held with Palestinians in 2008 had produced a peace deal, it would have forced tens of thousands of Jewish settlers to leave their homes in the West Bank... it would also not have included an Israeli presence in the Jordan Valley, Olmert said.The koranimals rejected it, just as they've rejected every offer. They aren't interested in a negotiated settlement, nor have they given up their sick dream of a new Holocaust. Apparently neither has Olmert. Thanks Nachum.
Perhaps the settlers DIDN'T "know" they would be giving up the land. Perhaps they figured that Israel would KEEP the land, and someday expel the Muslims.
“Perhaps they figured that Israel would KEEP the land, and someday expel the Muslims.”
Based on what? Israel has been saying since 1968 that it would trade the lands it conquered for peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_242
The Oslo Accord was signed in 1993. Everyone should have realized since that time what was going to happen if they didn’t get the message in 1968.
And how long ago was 1968?
Parse the statement you said, carefully. Israel said it would trade the lands for peace. Not an empty promise of peace.
The Muslims will NEVER agree to real peace. Therefore Israel will keep the land forever.
“Not an empty promise of peace.”
The promises are empty. I still wouldn’t be stupid enough to move to the land in question when there was a chance it would be given up - and it has been. And everyone knew for decades it was going to happen too. Since Oslo the number of Jewish settlers has gone up - even though Oslo included the handing over of land for peace. That makes no sense to me.
“The Muslims will NEVER agree to real peace. Therefore Israel will keep the land forever.”
But that isn’t what happened - except for Jerusalem. The land in general was handed over to the Palestinians. The hand writing was on the wall years and years ago.
It depends on how cheap the land is, and how expensive the houses are. I could see settlers building on the land, and figuring they might get their money's worth before it's time to go.
And everyone knew for decades it was going to happen too. Since Oslo the number of Jewish settlers has gone up - even though Oslo included the handing over of land for peace. That makes no sense to me.
Perhaps we're looking at people who do not agree. In the US we have a President who doesn't feel himself bound by the Constitution. Perhaps the Israeli settlers do not feel themselves bound by the Oslo accords?
“I could see settlers building on the land, and figuring they might get their money’s worth before it’s time to go.”
There’s an apartment subsidy of close to $30,000 for each apartment built and tax abatements as well. I STILL wouldn’t want to put my family through that.
Israel is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Muslims who want the Jews dead. Israel gets frequent rocket attacks from Gaza. They get suicide bombers. Iran has declared they intend to nuke them all.
Dude, if they were intimidated easily, they wouldn't be ANYWHERE in Israel in the first place.
0lmert is All Merde!
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