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To: Makana

Come now everyone by now knows that Leif Erickson founded Minnesota long before Columbus, the Pilgrims and the French. Ft. Caroline will not change the facts about Plymouth.

Plymouth Bay is the only surviving colony settlement. Were they wanting to settle further south. What ever happened to the other colony settlement they were heading to. There was another settlement too Jamestown, which would have preceded Plymouth, but it did not survive.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 4:04:23 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: hondact200

visited Jamestown a few years ago. fascinating. i’m guessing the difference was mosquitos as thats what took them out. being north of here had an advantage


11 posted on 02/22/2014 4:25:39 AM PST by CrouchingTiger620 (is it possible to 45th worse out of 44)
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To: hondact200
There was another settlement too Jamestown, which would have preceded Plymouth, but it did not survive.

Jamestown was established in 1607 what was then the Virginia colony and it most assuredly did survive, if only barely. It remained the capital of the Virginia colony until 1699, when the capital moved a bit up the river to Williamsburg.

Jamestown thus predates Plymouth by some 13 years as the oldest permanent English-speaking colony in North America.

20 posted on 02/22/2014 5:29:36 AM PST by DSH
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To: hondact200

Leif Erickson didn’t make it to Minnesota. The settlement he founded was on the Atlantic coast. The Kensington Runestone, a supposed artifact dating from the fourteenth century that indicates a Scandinavian presence in Minnesota at the time, is widely believed to be the product of a hoax or prank.


28 posted on 02/22/2014 6:26:39 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: hondact200

——Plymouth Bay is the only surviving colony settlement-—

Except for St Augustness and the even older Santa Fe


31 posted on 02/22/2014 6:36:04 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: hondact200

“There was another settlement too Jamestown, which would have preceded Plymouth, but it did not survive.”

You need a new history book. Jamestown certainly did survive.

The Roanoke Colony of 1587 vanished, not Jamestown.


61 posted on 02/22/2014 1:54:11 PM PST by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: hondact200

Ummmm, check your history please. Jamestown did indeed survive, and is the OLDEST PERMANANT ENGLISH settlement in what is now the USA. Something like 90% of the original settlers died in the first few years, but Jamestown was eventually a successful settlement, and is how the colony of Virginia (MUCH bigger than Massachusetts btw) started.

Jamestown was the capitol of Virginia until 1699, when the capitol moved to Williamsburg. After that point Jamestown dwindled and eventually was turned into farmland.

Having been first settled in 1607, it is older than Plymouth, Mass. by 13 years.


71 posted on 02/24/2014 11:18:20 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!)
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