Posted on 03/14/2014 6:54:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Ron Paul has just sided with Putin over the invasion of Ukraine.
Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) appeared on the Fox Business Network’s The Independents on Wednesday night where he was asked for his thoughts about the worsening situation in Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula. Paul said that the United States and the West have engaged in hypocrisy and alleged that they participated in the overthrow of Viktor Yanukovich’s government. He added that Russian President Vladimir Putinhas “some law on his side” in Crimea because Russia held a lease on a naval base in the Crimean city of Sevastopol.
“This whole thing that Putin is the big cause of the trouble, and yet there’s pretty good evidence that the Europeans as well as the American government had to contrive to have the overthrow of a government that most people say had been elected,” Paul asserted.
“And then for them to come along and say, ‘Well, it’s an illegal government,’ and they want to have a referendum now, you know, in Crimea, ‘Oh, no, that’s not permissible,’” Paul continued. “Everything that Putin does is illegal. He’s no angel, but actually he has some law on his side.”
How does Putin have any law on his side? Crimea is not even Russian territory. Putin is taking advantage of the turmoil in Ukraine to seize and annex Crimea, probably on the way to either dismembering Ukraine or absorbing all of it by force.
Paul asserted that “contracts, and agreements, and treaties” associated with the Sevastopol base provide Putin with the legal basis to militarily occupy the peninsula. He said that Russia could accuse America of occupying Cuba because it, too, holds a lease on the land around the Guantanamo Bay prison.
“It’s such a façade,” he continued.
The facade is Ron Paul trying to sound reasonable. He leaps to blaming America in just about every instance — note the swipe about Cuba. The United States does not occupy Cuba just because we have a base there, and we are not about to absorb it. Gitmo was established long before the Castro regime took power.
If Sen. Rand Paul is to become a serious presidential contender, he is going to have to find a way to keep his cranky father off the TV. All Ron Paul does is blame America for the misdeeds of others, including Putin.
Host Matt Welch asked if Crimea’s snap referendum, scheduled to be held on Sunday, could really be considered legitimate given that it is being orchestrated by an occupational government “in the shadow” of the Russian government amassing forces on the Ukrainian border.
“Yeah,” Paul said. “I don’t think we should do all that threatening.” Welch attempted to clarify his question, but Paul went on to say that the Crimean invasion is being used as an “excuse” to erect interceptor missiles in “Russia’s backyard.”
The ballot in that referendum doesn’t even provide a “no” option. How can it be legitimate?
Paul goes on from there to assert that people have a right of secession, which is correct, but he then applies it to Crimea, which is incorrect. Crimea has not chosen secession yet. The Sunday vote isn’t about secession, it’s about annexation. Russia swooped in and put 30,000 troops on it and is now holding a snap vote to put a gloss of legitimacy on its invasion. Russia is also massing troops on Ukraine’s borders for what looks like a broader offensive.
Ron Paul would never, ever let any American administration get away with such obvious aggression. But he’s fine with Putin doing it.
Why?
Update: Putin is moving broadly against opposition, even outside of Russia. Does Ron Paul support this?
Not only did Putin block access to opposition news sites in Russia, but Rus govt contacted our admin to turn off servers. They work fast.
— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) March 13, 2014
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Indeed.
Rand can Crimea River.
Runt Paul is just like his old man, another Liberaltarian turd in the punch bowl.
Don’t believe the media. What I have seen with my own eyes and ears is Rand Paul stands up to Obama.
They are going after him because of this article in the NYT. Immigration is NOT a priority, it is a ruse by the Dems to make Republics seem racists. They do that very effectively. Don’t go after every bone they throw out because that is how they confuse and distract.
Rand Paul Wins Conservative Straw Poll
By JONATHAN MARTINMARCH 8, 2014
OXON HILL, Md. — Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, won a presidential straw poll at a prominent conservative conference here on Saturday, capturing 31 percent of the vote among no fewer than 10 potential candidates.
“He added that Russian President Vladimir Putinhas “some law on his side” in Crimea because Russia held a lease on a naval base in the Crimean city of Sevastopol.”
Maybe I am missing something. Just what threat did the Ukrainians pose to the Russian leases to their naval and military bases in the Crimean?
Someone asked me this question regarding Rand Paul’s immigration policy:
___________________________________________
What don’t you like about this: http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=issue&id=12
Are you against the stronger border? Are you in favor of subsidizing illegal immigration? Are you against local solutions or the standardization of English the official language?
“I have a message from the Tea Party, a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words. We’ve come to take our government back.”
“I have a question, a question for the president: Do you hate all rich people, or just rich people who don’t contribute to your campaign? Do you hate poor people or do you just hate poor people with jobs?”
Rand Paul
RE: Rand Paul Wins Conservative Straw Poll
Ron Paul is also good at winning straw polls.
See here:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63758.html
and here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/29/ron-paul-wins-iowa-straw-poll_n_1065579.html
and here:
http://rt.com/usa/ron-paul-straw-ohio-603/
Might as well kick over the hornets’ nest, so here goes:
Ron Paul is a nutty isolationist with some dangerously nutty followers, you the kind who take down every other candidates’ signs & leave only their own. The cult following remains creepy long after 2008. Now Ron Paul gives his blessing to Putin the same way Mario Cuomo said give Saddam Hussein some territory to appease him.
Can we now be quite sure that the son Rand Paul has climbed out of the gene pool & thoroughly dried off? Has the apple fallen from the tree & rolled away? Just asking.
If the government of Cuba were being overthrown by people even more hostile to the US than Castro, and shots were being fired, don't you think that there'd be reasonable concern for the safety of personnel at Guantanamo Bay? Wouldn't it be reasonable for the US military to act to protect those people?
He can spin his website any way he wants, and change it daily.
But he can’t change his record!
“•Legal status, but not citizenship, for illegal immigrants. (Mar 2013)
•We will find a place for illegal immigrants in America. (Mar 2013)
•Replace de facto amnesty with bipartisan reform. (Mar 2013)
•See immigrants as assets, not liabilities. (Feb 2013)
•Obamacare treats illegal aliens because it’s illegal to ask. (Oct 2010)
•No amnesty; respect the law. (Jul 2010)”
He is listed as a Liberaltarian based on the facts, not his spin!
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rand_Paul.htm#Immigration
That was my question too.
But then Paul says this: ..."yet there’s pretty good evidence that the Europeans as well as the American government had to contrive to have the overthrow of a government that most people say had been elected"
Therein lies the key. If the West really was actively engaged in subverting the Ukrainian government, then Putin does have a legitimate reason to move into the Crimea.
On the other hand, Paul could just be repeating Russian propaganda. In that case, Putin = Hitler
Russia and Ukraine agree on gas, naval base
Russia agreed yesterday (21 April) to cut the price of its gas supplies to Ukraine by 30% in exchange for a 25-year extension of the lease of its Black Sea fleet based on Ukraine's Crimean peninsula.
This is a very good example of why US energy independence is such a critical national security issue, and what a traitor President Obama is for blocking the Keystone XL pipeline, new exploration and drilling at federal and offshore sites, and new refinery capacity.
Wow, your responsible for your family’s actions? How did Jimmy Carter ever win with that alcoholic brother?
*you’re
Wish there was an edit button.
If the Russians felt threatened, it was only that their participation in a massively corrupt set of schemes funneling cash to the Russian mob might have suffered. The demand of the Ukrainians was, “Stop stealing from me.” Russians were under no physical threat or property confiscation.
All these idiots spouting off about “international law” are just ignorant of the fact that there is no such thing as international law. Has been and always will be the law of “might makes right” on the international scene, if you don’t have the military strength to enforce your will then tough cookies.
We did it in Kosovo when we bombed the heck out of Serbia until they gave up Kosovo to the Muslims and we did it in Iraq where we invaded on a phony WMD pretext to bounce out Saddam because he had the gall to try and assassinate Bush Sr. And now Russia is doing the same with Ukraine, the only question that matters is are they strong enough to do it, which so far seems to be yes.
And Ron Paul is right about one thing, it really is none of our business, we have no dog in this race so why get our panties in a bunch?
We’re against he legalization of 12+ million illegal immigrants.
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