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We must continue spending to supply our military with Tomahawk missiles, says … Rand Paul?
Hotair ^ | 03/27/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/27/2014 7:45:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This ain’t your daddy’s libertarian. More to the point, this ain’t his daddy’s libertarian.

First he went after Ted Cruz for trying to characterize him as a dove, now this. By the end of the year, he and McCain will be holding joint filibusters on the Senate floor demanding that America build the biggest nuclear bomb evah. Rand Paul, hawk?

In the current budget, the Obama Administration called for the elimination of the Tomahawk missile. This missile protects our troops and allows us to avoid much direct person-to-person combat. Our navy has depended heavily on them…

Nobody wants to cut spending, including Pentagon waste and abuse, more than me. I agree with former Chairman of the Joints Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen who has said that the greatest threat to our national security is the national debt.

But I don’t want to cut weapons that have been integral to maintaining a strong military…

Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) has identified nearly $70 billion in waste–everything from studying flying dinosaurs to making beef jerky–that somehow qualifies as Department of Defense spending. The $128 million President Obama plans to cut next year from the Tomahawk program could easily be replaced by cutting some of this $70 billion we are wasting right now…

America should be a country that is always reluctant to go to war and that only goes to war constitutionally through a declaration by Congress. But if the time comes when our security or interests are threatened, the United States must always be ready to fight and win, decisively and quickly.

I’d pay cash money to watch him and Ron debate defense. They could make it happen at any time on Fox News; presumably Rand, who’s peevish about being pressed by the media on his father’s views (isn’t he the same guy who’s constantly bringing up Bill Clinton’s sins as an indirect attack on Hillary?), has decided that that’s too risky. There are potential benefits in doing it — there’s no better way to draw a contrast with Paul 1.0 than by challenging him in front of a camera — but holding on to Ron’s libertarian base (especially in Iowa) is a core part of his strategy. The contrast helps him with grassroots conservatives but hurts him potentially with old-school Paulites, which is why today’s Tomahawk op-ed ran at Breitbart rather than Reason. And a joint appearance opens each of them up to awkward questions. Would Ron be comfortable with Rand as commander-in-chief knowing that he’s taken a line on Russia after the Crimean invasion that’s basically as hawkish as any other prominent Republican’s? Would Rand feel comfortable with a commander-in-chief like Ron who’s willing to look the other way at Russian interventionism and defend an obviously crooked Crimean referendum? Does Ron agree that Tomahawks are a vital defense measure worth protecting or are they just another enticement to “warmongering”? There must be some derivative of the “starve the beast” approach among isolationist libertarians that says it’s better to have fewer weapons lying around lest the Pentagon be tempted to use them abroad. How about that idea, Rand?

But maybe I’m overestimating Rand’s fear of alienating the Ron Paul voters of 2012. Could be that there are more hawks (or moderate hawks) among them than we think and that those differences with doves were papered over in the name of advancing Ron’s candidacy. Now he’s retired and Rand’s the man so the hawks can assert themselves a bit more. This statement yesterday by one of the founders of Students for Liberty condemning Ron’s approach to Russia caught my eye as a reminder that libertarians aren’t uniform on foreign policy. They have their centrists and hardliners too, like any political movement, and Rand’s emergence as a more hawkish mainstream candidate may be emboldening some of the centrists to speak up. He talks a lot about needing to change the Republican Party but maybe he’s changing some parts of Paulworld too. Or maybe they’re going to turn on him viciously now that he’s extolling the virtues of missiles at the top of Breitbart. They don’t call him the most interesting man in the Senate for nothing!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hellfire; kentucky; libtardian; military; missiles; oklahoma; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; stoppedclock; tedcruz; texas; thekycandidate; tomahawk; tomcoburn; weathervane

1 posted on 03/27/2014 7:45:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Nah! We are in the new century now, The world is different. Obama has blessed us all with rainbows and unicorns. Sunshine happiness and wealth are here for all! “Praise the Lord Obama”!/ sarc!!!


2 posted on 03/27/2014 7:56:34 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

We must eliminate any weapons systems which give us a strategic advantage.

Besides, its beed jerky, almost as good as bacon.


3 posted on 03/27/2014 7:56:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

and Im suppose to give credence to anything a major RomneyBot says about possible 2016 candidates ???


4 posted on 03/27/2014 7:57:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t say I enjoy the level of snark in this article.


5 posted on 03/27/2014 7:59:14 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder why many afraid of Rand Paul. Is it what he will do or what he won’t do?


6 posted on 03/27/2014 8:34:57 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There ARE National Security libertarians.

They want the biggest, badest military in the world...unchallenged. They want closed borders.

And they want that military to be used only for the pursuit of genuine US National Security Interests.

7 posted on 03/27/2014 8:37:33 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: driftdiver

“Besides, its beed jerky, almost as good as bacon.”

Which of course is no comparison to the best food on earth. Bacon Jerky.


8 posted on 03/27/2014 8:54:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: SeekAndFind

For all the Rand Paul is a Libertarian Loon Freepers out there. :-)


9 posted on 03/27/2014 8:55:40 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Mariner
Ron Paul, the standard bearer of modern liberTopianism, is not for a big/bad military. In fact, he said this.....

"we could defend this country with a few good submarines.”

10 posted on 03/27/2014 8:57:57 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: ex-snook

RE: Wonder why many afraid of Rand Paul. Is it what he will do or what he won’t do?

BOTH.

Some concerns:

* Is he a supporter of amnesty?

* Is he an isolationist?

* Is he unwilling to confront social issues?

* Is he weak on defense?

* How much has he been influenced by his father?


11 posted on 03/27/2014 8:58:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: Mariner

Sadly, I doubt that Rand Paul is actually one of them.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 9:00:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind
Another concern...

Is Rand Paul into Identity Politics?

It appears that he is.

13 posted on 03/27/2014 9:05:33 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: SeekAndFind
That sounds perfectly reasonable. I wonder if he really means it? haha!

This sounds more like him, perhaps: "...Our priority should be defending our country, not policing others...."

14 posted on 03/27/2014 9:41:53 AM PDT by 88keys (broken glass GOP; it matters, replace the Dems. 2014!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wrong, Mr. Paul. The greatest threat to our national security is our national depravity and immorality.

Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

All our problems would melt away if we collectively turned back to obedience to God.


15 posted on 03/27/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: 88keys

RE: This sounds more like him, perhaps: “...Our priority should be defending our country, not policing others....”

Here’s the only problem with that. To stop defending others (or maybe even stop being the world’s policeman), we’ll have to consider which one’s we have to give up:

* CANCEL ALL OF OUR TREATIES WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, INCLUDING ANZUS and NATO.

* CLOSE ALL OF OUR BASES WORLDWIDE, JAPAN, KOREA, etc.

* STOP SUPPORTING OUR ALLY, ISRAEL and ALLOW IRAN and ALL OTHER ARABS HOSTILE TO HER TO PERHAPS, CONQUER HER. THIS OF COURSE ASSUMES THAT THE ISLAMIST COUNTRIES ARE GOING TO LEAVE THE REST OF THE WEST AND THE USA ALONE AFTER THEY START TAKING OVER THE MIDDLE EAST.

* SIT BACK AND ALLOW RUSSIA TO RE-TAKE EASTERN EUROPE.

* SIT BACK AND ALLOW CHINA TO TAKE OVER DISPUTED TERRITORIES WITH JAPAN, KOREA, THE PHILIPPINES AND MALAYSIA, AND CONTINUE TO FUND NORTH KOREA’S MISSILE PROGRAMS.

Just a few of the “priorities” we’ll need to consider cutting back on or retaining...


16 posted on 03/27/2014 9:52:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah...he’s right about the Tomahawks (sic), wrong about the rest of your list, lol!


17 posted on 03/27/2014 10:01:02 AM PDT by 88keys (broken glass GOP; it matters, replace the Dems. 2014!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe the proposal to end the Tomahawk production line is because it's replacement is in the test phase? Link
18 posted on 03/27/2014 10:05:50 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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Rand, like his old man, is a demagogue.
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]
Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

19 posted on 10/25/2014 12:04:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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