What a shock!
Posted on 03/31/2014 11:04:32 AM PDT by gwgn02
At the Washington Post, Jennifer Rubin this weekend highlighted a video of Rand Paul speaking in 2012 about sanctions on Iran. In it, Paul disparages the notion of use of force, and for some reason claims the United States was partly to blame for World War II!
“There are times when sanctions have made it worse. I mean, there are times .. leading up to World War II we cut off trade with Japan. That probably caused Japan to react angrily. We also had a blockade on Germany after World War I, which may have encouraged them … some of their anger.”
Rubin spoke with David David Adesnik of the American Enterprise Institute about Paul’s remarks:
After viewing the video, he tells Right Turn, “Blaming the U.S. for Pearl Harbor is a long-standing isolationist habit that reflects tremendous historical illiteracy. Sen. Paul is very poorly informed if he thinks U.S. sanctions ‘probably caused Japan to react angrily.’” He explains, “The U.S. cut off oil supplies to Japan in August 1941, long after Japan had launched its atrocity-laden war against China in 1937. The evidence is conclusive that Japan was determined to dominate all of East Asia. Believing that the U.S. would not stand by passively if it overran Thailand, Singapore, Malaya and the East Indies, Japan launched its surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.”
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I didn’t have to wait as long as you to know I would not endorse Rand Paul. Once he endorsed McConnell, it was over for me.
CRUZ in 2016!
(2) Japan had adequate land to feed its population, which grew about 15% from 1920 to 1940.
(3) The US government and population were well aware that Japan would likely attack the US. They did not anticipate that Japan would try as unorthodox a move as to strike first at Pearl Harbor: most observers assumed that the Philippines would have been the rational choice.
If was to comment might be giving a senator information and the senator am speaking of needs defeating and should be handily defeated according to the polling taking place. Rand is intelligent (imho). Am looking at his endorsement in my state and I totally agree with him and will vote, in the primary, for Rand’s endorsement.
but I do not agree with Rand on his endorsement of mcconnell but this might be to stay out of trouble. May mcconnell be defeated.
If you watch the vid he explains why he supports sanctions against Iran that he voted for but is opposed to invasion.
The title was fictioned to convince readers of the opposite.
The WWII theme nonsense is about nothing.
The long knives are out for the libertarian kid, his poll ##s are scaring some.
Yes, it is. I often think the same thing. It’s as if they’ve given up hope on America and concluded they must accept the downfall of the USA. I believe they’d be better off to realize that Obama’s overreach will setback Liberalism for along time. But if the conservatives end up acting and thinking like cranks out of alienation and anger, then the American people will not see them as a viable alternative.
Yes. Paul is a bit confused. The oil embargo did not cause the Japanese to attack America. The embargo just moved the timetable up a bit.
Embargo or not, the Japanese wanted the US out of the Philippines and the British out of Singapore.
What a shock!
Quote: “Well, here we go again. The Left basically lies while the video shows his point is unintended consequences, not “blaming the U.S. for WWII”. Unfortunately, many on the Right will take the Leftist bate. Yes, I think Rand’s worst feature is his foreign policy, but the Left hates him and the Right taking on their lies doesn’t help.”
The LEFT!?!? No way, this sounds more like a GOP-e smear that is being brought to you by the “Jeb Bush, the only “electable” candidate for President in 2016” machine.
What I find hysterical is how many on this forum fall for this time and time again and end up eating our own. A headline that completely either mischaracterizes what was said or takes it out of context. The next thing you know you get the “Rand Paul is a fool” or “I no longer support this ignorant traitor” crap. Some of it, probably, posted by Karl Rove whiteboard fans planted on FR.
I for one take anything said about a conservative leaning candidate with a degree of skepticism.
(1) The American people saw the situation in Asia differently from the situation in Europe.
(2) Most Americans assumed, given Japan's behavior, that they would eventually commit an act of war against the US by attacking our overseas possessions.
(3) Americans were not enthusiastic about war in Europe, but they were not about to take aggression from Japan lying down.
(5) You wander far off into conspiracy fantasism with your comments about "German based facilities" of US companies.
There was no such thing as precision nighttime bombing - it was simply an impossibility to select specific buildings for destruction or preservation. The very suggestion is absurd.
As is the assumption that such facilities would not have been nationalized by Germany, as is the assumption that the facilities weren't insured.
Uhh, wait, that lady is holding up a R. . O. . N Paul sign not a R. . A. . N. . D Paul sign. I realize they share the same last name but am pretty sure that doesn’t mean they are the same person.
The lefties love Rand Paul as a stalking horse to help split the conservative vote. They know they can take him out anytime they want to. Same reason they love Huckleberry.
If the Axis Powers had triumphed, it certainly would have been the Axis Powers.
I don't get the love fest for Putin and Assad, though. I wouldn't exactly say they're on the Washington, Jefferson, or Adams scale.
No, they are on the Dahmer, Gacy, or Bundy scale.
Both Germany and Japan were busy attacking and killing others during the time so it is not like they did nothing as we put on sanctions.
In reality, Japan was killing folks in the Philippines and in China and the Germany killing those in Europe long before we got involved.
That the Japanese attack on Pearl was a response to our economic embargo on oil shipments is hardly controversial.
He is ambitious, raw, uncontrolled ambition.
One of the biggest challenges to Rand Paul is going to be, to keep the massiveness of his ego, hidden from the public.
They keep saying the same things.
Yeah, ‘cause all of Ron Paul’s supporters went home the day he retired and NOT ONE of them attached themselves to his son. And if Michelle Obama runs, she’ll have to find her own followers, same as Hillary Clinton, Dubya and Jeb.
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