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What Putin is rebuilding
4-17-14 | Dangus

Posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:34 PM PDT by dangus

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To: dangus

I agree. I withdrew my comment in post 56, but should have addressed the comment to you. That is what I get for posting in the middle of the night.


81 posted on 04/17/2014 6:56:51 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Corporate Democrat

Which nation isn’t Christian?

Number of abortions per 10,000, Russia, 2008: 87
Number of abortions per 10,000, Russia, 2013: 57
Number of abortions per 10,000, New York, 2009: 300
Number of abortions per 10,000, Texas, 2009: 150
Number of abortions per 10,000, Florida, 2009: 240


82 posted on 04/17/2014 7:04:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Where did you get the figures for the American abortion statistics?

I hope you realize that RIA Novoski took the lazy way out, and basically divided the total number of abortions in 2008 (1,250,000) and divided it by the total population of Russia. (150,000,000) and then multiplied it by 10,000 to get their ratio.

American statistics tend to count only women in a certain age group.


83 posted on 04/17/2014 7:42:50 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: dangus
I'll do the same thing RIA Novoski did, for comparison's sake. The average number of abortions in America in 2008, according to Life News and the Guttmacher Institute was 1,200,000. The American population is 300 million. So 1.2/300*10000=40. 40 versus 87 would be the real comparison.
84 posted on 04/17/2014 7:53:19 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: dangus

Just another quick note, according to Guttmacher and Russian official statistics in 2013 (which I would actually take with a healthy grain of salt) both countries have seen reduced abortions with both countries at roughly 1.06 million abortions per year.

Of course, Russia also has half the population that America does. Despite professing to be more Christian, they still can’t help aborting at double the rate we do. Neither is Putin very eager to ban abortion entirely it seems, despite the fact that his professed religion calls for it.


85 posted on 04/17/2014 8:00:27 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

What percentage of Russia’s population is Muslim, and at what rate is their population increasing compared to non-Muslims?


86 posted on 04/17/2014 8:01:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Corporate Democrat

You’re counting the number of abortions per 10,000 people, not per 10,000 adult women 18-49. And still relying on 2008 data. So you can roughly quadruple your data.

Now, considering the whole issue is that Putin is siding with the re-establishment of Christian Russia, using old data is using totally irrelevant data.

So 160 vs 57 would be the real comparison.


87 posted on 04/17/2014 8:07:08 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I thought I already showed you that Russia's abortion statistics are per 10,000 people, which I remember calling 'lazy'.

On the other hand, the American abortion statistics that you posted are per 10,000 women of reproductive age, which means it's obviously going to be higher. I used 2008 Guttmacher and Russian statistics for a fair comparison with the Russian measure.

I also noted that total abortions in 2013 in both Russia and the United States are roughly the same in number, again according to Guttmacher and the Russian government.

Given that Russia has half the total population we do, it doesn't really make sense that we could have more abortions than they would, even if you don't want to do the math.

88 posted on 04/17/2014 8:35:30 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

>> I also noted that total abortions in 2013 in both Russia and the United States are roughly the same in number, again according to Guttmacher and the Russian government. <<

You might have claimed that, but you’re wrong.

Russia had 885,000 abortions in 2013.
The United States had 1.3 million.
I don’t know where you got your Russia stats, but your American states leave out the states which don’t report abortions, which happen to be the ones which performed the most abortions, like California.


89 posted on 04/17/2014 8:44:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Corporate Democrat

Actually, I thought you were claiming 1.06 million in the US. I now see you previously stated 1.2 million. That might approximate the real number, if AGI believes that California and the other non-reporting states saw the number of abortions drop as dramatically as other states (although I’d question that logic.)


90 posted on 04/17/2014 8:47:02 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dfwgator
Russia's Muslim population is highly concentrated in the area surrounding Central Asia and around Crimea and is about 5%. I don't think Russia does public statistics on the birth rates of Muslims specifically though.

There are a lot of Muslim 'migrant workers' who travel long distances to Russian metros who are viewed and treated a lot like the illegal immigrants here. They provide low wage labor in many of the cities, which occasionally generates some newsworthy drama.

91 posted on 04/17/2014 9:05:40 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Kozak

So Israel doesn’t antagonize Russia while Russia continues to help Iran. Something is missing there.


92 posted on 04/17/2014 9:34:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai (Master Yogurt, is Dark Helmet my father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?)
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To: Corporate Democrat

RIA Novosti has been owned by the government since December. US media is bad enough, but imagine it being owned by the federal government?


93 posted on 04/17/2014 9:43:35 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Zhang Fei
Interesting. I am flying Aeroflot this summer. And I do have a layover in Moscow. hmmmm, something to think about.

I do have an aversion to cold though.

94 posted on 04/17/2014 10:56:49 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri
Interesting. I am flying Aeroflot this summer. And I do have a layover in Moscow. hmmmm, something to think about. I do have an aversion to cold though.

Learning a new language can be a bear, though, even for folks with exposure to it during childhood through doting grandparents.

95 posted on 04/17/2014 11:06:51 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: riri

The salary plunge is also a killer, which is why Russians generally migrate West, whereas very few Westerners head to Russia who aren’t Edward Snowden or affiliated with BP or Chevron.


96 posted on 04/17/2014 11:23:03 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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