[Rashputin]

And I honestly think that if there aren't NATO guys sneaking around over there it'll be the first time they weren't infiltrated into any place there was a conflict of some sort going on.

I don't underestimate Russia and their aid to the separatists a bit, it's just that realistically they don't have to do nearly as much as they're accused of to have everything keep going their way. The Ukrainians have been on the verge of tearing one another up for a long time and now they have the chance.

[Mariner]

"The Ukrainians have been on the verge of tearing one another up for a long time and now they have the chance. "

Sh!t's been brewing for a couple of hundred years.

There's never been a united "Ukraine" that covers all this territory...and was independent of Russia.

Never.

[DoughtyOne]

I wouldn’t disagree with that.

Operatives from both sides are to be expected IMO.