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To: Mariner

I’ve paid attention to the situation extremely closely since Fall of last year and done much research.

I believe meddling was and is being done on both sides ( Russia and the West ) but Russia’s security services ( GRU and FSB primarily ) have and are currently deeply imbedded in Ukraine government past and present.

Further, there is Yanukovych’s involvement via his ‘Family’ and criminal cohorts who are believed to be largely financing the ‘protests’ in the East and the South.

Regardless of where the money is coming from, Russia is coordinating and manufacturing instability with the main objectives of creating referendum votes and stopping the national May 25 vote.

Though there are legitimate grievances on both sides of Ukraine, the original student protests for the integration into the EU ( a fantasy for a very long time to come ) morphed into a fight for freedom, democracy, a government and businesses free from corruption/crime. Yes the West in general wanted closer ties to Europe and the East to maintain ties to Russia, BUT neither side wanted or even according to even recent polls want to split or join Russia.


30 posted on 05/02/2014 9:07:32 PM PDT by More Objective than Subjective
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To: More Objective than Subjective
"a fantasy for a very long time to come "

Yep, that's the truth right there.

Some fascist/communist/imperialist government somewhere far from Kiev will be calling the shots.

For as far as the eye can see.

35 posted on 05/02/2014 9:13:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: More Objective than Subjective
BUT neither side wanted or even according to even recent polls want to split or join Russia.

Bingo. New Poll finds only 15 percent in Eastern Ukraine want to join with Russia
39 posted on 05/02/2014 9:19:17 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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