Posted on 05/09/2014 4:06:58 AM PDT by Yosemitest
I’m in NC, and I couldn’t tell that the Tea Party didn’t want Tillis. The ONLY ads I saw against him were the idiotic ones run by dim-0s about.................Thom Tillis shared an apartment with an aide and the aide was having an affair!!!!!!!!!
RUSH is partly wrong on this Walter Jones is hardly Tea Party - less Tea Party than his opponent Taylor Griffin - who had the local TP endorsements in this race. His research here just totally wrong.
The Jones race is not classic estab v tea Party. Neither candidate fits the entire mold, but Jones is more liberal on more issues than Griffin by far. Sarah Palin and the local Tea Parties agree. Rush stepped in deep do do on this one.
His bigger point, that the TP isn’t dead, I agree with .but NC 3 does not prove it at all.
Well, let’s not forget that Hagan groups ran ads almost blaming Tillis for Obama Care - which is ironic.
Fact is, Tillis had a lot of money, and he’s not been that bad of a Speaker. Brannon was by far the best man for the job, but his campaign had some problems - and Tillis ran a very good organized campaign.
In fact, the more I think about this, the more irritated and disappointed in Rush I am.
Jones is a 9-11 Truther ..he’s in favor of raising the minimum wage ..his rankings on all the conservative rating groups has been going down down down over the past decade. He is certainly the most liberal Republican in the House from the South. He’s just awful. The local Tea Party groups know it, and so did Palin, who endorsed Griffin. SHAME on Rush for this mistake.
As an aside, I know enough about show prep to know how this kind of mistake could have been made.
Even with the big push from the GOP-e Tillis only got 45% of the primary vote. That means 55% voted against him.
Jones won his primary even with the big push from the GOP-e to get him out.
So I’d say Tea Party ideals are still kicking the GOP-e’s shins around here.
I could be wrong, but wasn’t Walter Jones one of the few GOP reps who joined the Democrat surrender crowd in regards to Iraq back during the Bush administration.
But if Matt Bevin does not defeat McConnell in KY, the Republican Party, for all intents and purposes, will be dead to me and my voter registration will reflect that the day after.
Yes, Jones is frankly an erratic idiot .. Idoubt his IQ is over 85, literally.
He’s all over the place. Boehner doesn’t like him, but neither do any Tea Party conservatives who know what he’s about.
Well you have the right to make your own choices, but since you admit that the Tea Party cannot be co opted by any one person or group of persons, why don’t you apply thgat logic to the GOP and not let McConnell or Rove or Barbour run you out of the party of Palin, Limbaugh, Cruz, Levin?
Apply your lesson BOTH WAYS. You will be forced to submit to the socialist if they get theri way .just sayin ..
I said I agree with the bigger point Rush was making, but this is my territory, I know the players, and the following are facts:
There was no big GOP e push to get Jones out. There was some, but not big. Don’t believe Jone’s ad material.
Jones is the most liberal Republican from the south, period. The TP and Palin opposed him. That’s why he only won 51%. He lost every county but his hometown county.
Tillis was pushed to the right by Brannon, and frankly, Tillis is not as bad as some of the folks who supported him, like Rove. The NC House under his speakership has been good, not great, but good. They have pushed Gov MCCrory to the right.
Just some thoughts here.
Tellis will be better than Kay Hagan, so let’s united behind him.
All Tuesday proves is that the GOPe has successfully jiggered the election process in a number of states.
Good news, “Operation American Spring” is coming to D.C. a week from today!
Thank-you Rush!
NAME ON BALLOT | PARTY | BALLOT COUNT | PERCENT |
---|---|---|---|
Walter Jones | REP | 22,534 | 50.91 % |
Taylor Griffin | REP | 19,937 | 45.05 % |
Al (Big Al) Novinec | REP | 1,788 | 4.04 % |
You have a first hand perspective on both this N.C. 3 congressional race AND show prep. I trust your sense of this.
However, at least Rush does have the BIG point right - the Tea Party MOVEMENT is alive!
... The Tea Party, a movement, a name, a coalition of grassroots activists that have just come together, no official Tea Party ... they're idea people and they're not totally unified on everything, but they're identifiable as people who are fed up with the establishment of both parties, including the Republican Party.
And due to this somewhat subjective definition, WHO is a Tea Party movement candidate is a very elusive thing. A lot of times and races no candidate fits the perfect mold. Some candidates may be embraced by both the establishment and the TP, correctly or not so. And a wide variety of candidates will get "defined" as Tea Party, rightly or wrongly too. So informed candidates and voters need to pay clear attention to a candidate's record and what they stand for. For example, Todd Akin was NOT the Tea Party candidate although that lie, spoken by the establishment and liberals, has circled the world numeral times now.
And as you point out, Walter Jones is not TP. And identifying Jones' record should have been very easy for Rush's show prep. Evidently, the desire to find an example of a TP win was just too great that he settled for such a poor example.
Yes, well SOTC, we both know of a former key member of show prep who no longer does it, and that person would have certainly caught this. The better example would be that the actual TP backed candidate almost beat Jones, a 22 year incumbent, to make Rush' point - or that Tillis was moved way right by Brannon in order to win, as a show of TP strength at least philosophically.
As to your other point, there's a misguided effort on the part of some, Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, somewhat Rush and others - to now define TP as simply a pro deport them all now organization - and to characterize anyone who is NOT deport them all now as "pro amnesty." That's absurd of course.
That's not the case. Rural Tea Party groups dependent on migrant workers are not this way at all. Rush knows, and has stated many times on air, that mass deportation is simply not possible. Why he then byes into the Ingraham/coulter line of thinking on this is just beyond me. He needs that other filter
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NC is my territory also.
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