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There's also the Moscow movie house debacle where scores of hostages were killed by poison gas ignited by special forces.
1 posted on 05/13/2014 11:02:27 AM PDT by AU72
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Robert Zubrin is president of Pioneer Energy of Lakewood, Colo., and the author of Energy Victory. The paperback edition of his latest book, Merchants of Despair: Radical Environmentalists, Criminal Pseudo-Scientists, and the Fatal Cult of Antihumanism, was recently published by Encounter Books.

Guess that makes him an expert on inhuman behavior. /s

2 posted on 05/13/2014 11:12:14 AM PDT by McGruff (Let Freedom Ring.)
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The Odessa Massacre happened in the fall of 1941 and winter of 1942.

Vladimir Putin was born October 7th 1952.

3 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:13 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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You can’t take seriously any propagandist who calls Aleksandr Dugin a “top Kremlin fascist ideologue and geopolitical strategist.” That’s like calling Rev. Jeremiah Wright a “top Bush neo-conservative ideologue and geopolitical strategist.”


4 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:38 AM PDT by dangus
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5 posted on 05/13/2014 11:15:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: AU72

A little before his time, don'cha think?

6 posted on 05/13/2014 11:16:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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More sensibly .... did the SOROS-Obama-Jarrett cabal plan and execute the Nazi attack on Russian supporters, burning them alive in an attempt to instill fear and silence opposition .... in good ‘ole Nazi time tested tradition???


7 posted on 05/13/2014 11:17:24 AM PDT by Ancient Wonderboy
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Reichstag Fire ping


10 posted on 05/13/2014 11:24:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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850 people were held hostage by 40-50 Chechen terrorists. A chemical gas was used successfully to placate the terrorists. The problem was that titrating a sleep-inducing drug is impossible in such conditions, and 130 hostages were also killed, mostly by overdoses of the drug. Doctors on the scene criticized the operation because they were not told what drug had been used, and so could not effectively counter its effects among the innocent. I would certainly call it a debacle. I would not call it evidence that Putin murders his own people for political points.


12 posted on 05/13/2014 11:29:08 AM PDT by dangus
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Whether or not he did, Pro-Russians aren’t messing around in Odessa anymore are they?


13 posted on 05/13/2014 11:31:50 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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I am sure some Russian cleaning woman will be brought forth to say “What, at this point, does it matter?”


14 posted on 05/13/2014 11:33:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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The author presents no evidence. The fact that Russian special forces did not aid in the battle of Odessa is presented not as a demonstration that Russia isn’t using special forces in Odessa, but as proof that Russia wanted its allies to lose to set up the scene for the Odessa massacre. When the brutality of Kiev backfires, this is not evidence that Kiev acted with passion blinded by hatred, but as proof that Russia wanted it to happen, and so therefore, by extension, proof that Russia did it.

I know National Review has become a haunt of establishment GOP types like Frum but I’m rather stunned to read its become the haunt of fanatical conspiracists so desperate to cover for a failed MSM narrative that they invent such psychotic drivel.

>> So it was easily predictable, when a similar scene was enacted in Odessa on May 2, with 42 pro-Russian activists burned to death or killed by smoke inhalation while trapped in the city’s Trade Union building, that ferocious rage and demands for revenge should break out in every part of Russia and every ethnic-Russian community in Ukraine. Indeed, in eliminating dissent and unifying Putin’s subjects into a mad herd behind his plans for war and fascism, the massacre could hardly have better served his aims and objectives if the former spymaster had planned it himself. <<


15 posted on 05/13/2014 11:36:11 AM PDT by dangus
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This guy doesn’t sound biased.

Article: Did Putin Plan the Odessa Massacre? 5/13/14
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Not!


17 posted on 05/13/2014 11:38:57 AM PDT by McGruff (Let Freedom Ring.)
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killed by smoke inhalation

Is someone trying to say they weren't MURDERED?

HF

38 posted on 05/13/2014 12:12:26 PM PDT by holden
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Stay well.


53 posted on 05/13/2014 12:40:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: AU72

Was probably Joe Biden since his family stands to gain.


83 posted on 05/13/2014 1:49:42 PM PDT by dforest
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Nuts

It wasn’t poison gas

It was narcotic gas

What killed them was how they laid after knocked out

Suffocated

Should have been on their sides


85 posted on 05/13/2014 1:59:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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Robert Zubrin wrote:

As part of this effort, Nazi SS units under the command of Himmler protégé Jochem Peiper (who later achieved infamy in the West as well for his massacre of captured GIs at Malmedy during the Battle of the Bulge)...

Robert Zubrin is a lying sack of poo.

Joachim Peiper, of the famed "Blowtorch Battalion" from the Eastern Front, was kind of "not around" when the Malmedy Massacre occurred.

So Zubrin is a liar.

BTW - Peiper was murdered by Communists in France in 1976, at the age of 61.

Pretty typical of the murdering Reds.

And their lying apologists, like Zubrin...

107 posted on 05/13/2014 10:06:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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