The libbers aren't open about much of anything, it is why a thread on gay marriage can have the libertarians fighting the conservatives tooth and nail, yet never quite saying what it is they are fighting for, or why they are so mad and passionate, it is like trying to pin down mercury, they make for the most strange, vague, yet nasty threads.
Imo this is the crux of the problem with libertarians.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident...all men are... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.”
Philosophically, they are moral relativists who don’t believe in absolute truths.