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To: metmom
They were clearly referred to as one flesh before the Fall. I think that many get the impression because it's at the beginning of chapter three, that the Fall happened almost immediately after Eve's creation; however, they probably spent some time in the Garden before the Fall.

Also, a careful reading of Genesis 3:16 indicates that Eve MIGHT have already experienced childbirth (to "multiply" the pain suggests that she might have had unpainful or less painful childbirth). However, most believe that Cain and Abel were the first children and they certainly seem to have been born after the Fall.

81 posted on 08/04/2014 9:27:01 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, there’s a lot of misconceptions about the account of the fall, and there is absolutely nothing that indicates how much time elapsed between Adam’s creation and Eve’s and Eve’s creation and the Fall.

I always figured that God’s was simply commenting that the pain in childbirth would be greatly increased, only notifying them of that fact. It implies that there would have been some pain in childbirth anyway, just not as much.

When the mechanics of it are considered, it’s inconceivable that childbirth would have been pain free completely.

I would say that Cain and Abel were born after the fall as they had a sin nature otherwise, they would not have been offering sacrifices nor would Cain have murdered Abel.


82 posted on 08/04/2014 9:43:02 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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