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Proprietary Primate: Wikipedia Says Monkey Owns Copyright to ‘Selfie’
The National Review ^ | 8-7-14 | Ian Tuttle

Posted on 08/07/2014 2:34:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Monkey business — or legitimate copyright claim?

In Indonesia in 2011 a female crested black macaque hijacked the camera of British nature photographer David Slater and proceeded to snap hundreds of photos — among them several selfies, photos of himself, one of which made worldwide headlines and the animal’s Wikipedia page. Slater, citing royalty losses, has tried to have the photograph removed from the site. The Telegraph reports:

The Gloucestershire-based photographer now claims that the decision is jeopardising his income as anyone can take the image and publish it for free, without having to pay him a royalty. He complained to Wikimedia [the U.S.-based non-profit that hosts Wikipedia] that that he owned the copyright of the image, but a recent transparency report from the group, which details all the removal requests it has received, reveals that editors decided that Mr Slater has no claim on the image as the monkey itself took the picture.

Slater is attempting to take the matter to court — at a likely cost of more than $15,000. Slater believes the copyright should be his, since he made possible all of the conditions for the photograph. But Wikimedia’s editors disagree, contending that monkey owns the copyright, or that the image should be in the public domain.

Below is the contested photo as it appears in the Wikimedia database:


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: copyrightlaw; copyrights; intellectualproperty; monkeybusiness; nature; photos; wikibias; wikipedia
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1 posted on 08/07/2014 2:34:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What a WONDERFUL photo!


2 posted on 08/07/2014 2:35:07 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Micaca nigra?

Double dipping.


3 posted on 08/07/2014 2:36:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I’m very sensitive to copyrights and patents, but I love that picture. I’m leaning to the opinion that the monkey owns it! LOL


4 posted on 08/07/2014 2:38:37 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

#1 What college will this primate play football for?

#2 Can a non-human own anything and have legal rights to something?


5 posted on 08/07/2014 2:40:45 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There is no way a monkey took that photo. Perfectly cropped and perfect lighting. No way.


6 posted on 08/07/2014 2:41:37 PM PDT by Fungi (Do not read this post.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is more of that “animals have rights” BS the wacko fringe left are into. Before you know it, they will say that beast is owed royalties.


7 posted on 08/07/2014 2:41:40 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

” Slater believes the copyright should be his, “

Did the monkey sign a model release?


8 posted on 08/07/2014 2:42:00 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (qu)
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To: Fungi

The original is canted. This is “cropped” and adjusted via PS or Gimp. I saw the “orig” earlier today.


9 posted on 08/07/2014 2:42:39 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So in the words of the gal on Storage Wars “Don’t forget to pay the monkey.”


10 posted on 08/07/2014 2:44:00 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Fungi

Well, it was cropped by somebody else, and I’d guess that the lens and the speed were automatic. The speed setting is perfect.


11 posted on 08/07/2014 2:44:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Fungi

The caption says the photo was cropped and rotated (by a human, one assumes). The camera controls the lighting, so that might not have needed adjusting.


12 posted on 08/07/2014 2:44:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (qu)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

My co-worker says the Macaque looks like Kim Kardashian... LOL


13 posted on 08/07/2014 2:45:35 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Why are there no George Allen jokes about this? Macaca? Nigra?


14 posted on 08/07/2014 2:45:59 PM PDT by Benito Cereno
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes I saw that if that is the case another hand was involved and why does not that person have a say in the dispute?


15 posted on 08/07/2014 2:46:26 PM PDT by Fungi (Do not read this post.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Does this mean that all photos taken with a game cam, which are triggered to shoot a picture when an animal steps in front of it, are public domain?


16 posted on 08/07/2014 2:48:23 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The monkey took a better picture than the human photographer did, but that does not make me ready to let animals own copyrights.

17 posted on 08/07/2014 2:50:28 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

I think the nature photographer is just jealous because the monkey took such a good picture. He’s probably insulted too because the monkey got hold of his camera and wouldn’t give it back.


18 posted on 08/07/2014 2:52:01 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A photographer who sets the settings on a camera and hands it to someone to take his picture can still establish copyright.

Same with footage from a “security camera”.

Wikiloons


19 posted on 08/07/2014 2:53:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (CNN suppressed news to maintain their Baghdad bureau under Saddam; they just did the same for Hamas.)
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To: Inyo-Mono


I got de camera
Dey want de camera
I am de monkey!
Coo coo cuchoo ,
coo coo cuchoo,
coo coo cuchoo,
coo coo cuchoo,
coo coo cuchoo


With apologies to Lennon/McCartney

20 posted on 08/07/2014 2:56:04 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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