As for security, this just came out from one of the companies that makes the cracking software for the police and government agencies to access encrypted mobile devices:
Apple's iOS blocks gov't spying efforts, Gamma's FinSpy useless against iPhone
So, again Cold Heat, you are spouting nonsense and FUD. The iOS devices are far safer than any other device from both malware or government intrusion. Apple is the one company that has not kowtowed to the government as has Google and Microsoft. Why do you think the encryption keys are kept off shore from China?
I have not spouted any nonsense.
You are just so wedded to a OS that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
Of course you are not unique. But you are off topic because I am not talking about malware. That is the least of your problems.
And yes, Android is not secure either...It’s the phone dummy, it’s insecurity is entirely a product of it’s features that are running at any one time.
I don’t use android, tried it once in a Samsung galaxy and it scared me to death! But Apple is even more scary.
My point is that all these phones are vulnerable, for various common and some uncommon reasons. Obviously the LEO’s do use technical exploits and that is always a concern but there is nothing Apple, MS, or Google can do to stop them because as soon as they update the OS or hardware, the Government will do a workaround.
Now getting back to the thread topic.
Nothing in my reply to that poster was BS or made up. I suggest you go through it again. I did say that the Chinese threatened Apple with the banning of their product for security reasons unless they caved and allowed their cloud servers to be located at a Chinese controlled network. Apple had to comply or....they could close their stores and pull their products back to HK and Taiwan and other areas where the regulators can’t touch them.
So Apple made a money decision and any security that they did have is now toast.
That is the gist of my comment and the only reason I even bothered to participate of this thread. I had no intention of getting into a debate with a Apple sycophant. I have found it to be akin to drowning a bucket of kittens.
As I said, I gave up using these smart phones about three years ago. I found them to be useful but the tradeoff for that usefulness was too expensive for me. A desktop computer is bad enough, but a cell phone network, no matter who it is, has no privacy at all anymore..and encryption is just about as useful as the Enigma machine.
So yeah! I guess you could say I have taken the first steps toward “Galt”.
So trying to sell me on Apple security is like selling ice to a Eskimo. Being only marginally better then Android at one time or another in one aspect of the hardware of software for what will certainly be a very brief moment until new hardware and programming comes out to defeat it is a exercise in futility.
The only decently secure phone I ever owned was a Blackberry. That is because they used private servers for their E-mail. I have not followed them in a long time, but my understanding was that most governments on the planet, forced Blackberry to give them access to these offshore servers or get their products out of their respective countries...and that was quite some time ago. (but it should sound familiar to you...NO?)
So when I say that the Apple phone is even less secure then some, I base it on numbers and on their propensity to lie about it all the time. They can’t have business people thinking for a second that their phone data is in the wind.
But it is...
As is yours...
As for mine, it is getting older by the day and probably not useful anymore. As time passes it will be hard to find if they needed to look.
And that is the way I want it.
So to summarize, the only secure phone is no phone. It’s certainly NOT I-phone.