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To: fishtank

Well since your first one shows complete ignorance in how and when stars are formed (hint, there are stars forming right now) there’s really not much reason to assume any of the other nine have even the slightest understanding of science or logic.


6 posted on 09/18/2014 2:29:08 PM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: discostu
What is your theory on cosmogony, and of stars?
10 posted on 09/18/2014 2:46:18 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: discostu
You didn't read the article did you. They address new star formation but take issue with it.

"ar formation is problematic at best.3 Gas is very resistant to being compressed. On earth, gas always fills its container. In space, there is no container. So gas expands indefinitely. If the gas could be forced into a sphere that is very small (in comparison to a nebula) such as the sun, then the gas would be held together by its own gravity. However, in a typical nebula, the gas pressure far exceeds the miniscule force of gravity. Secular astronomers now believe that external forces, such as a shockwave from an exploding star, are necessary in most cases to trigger star formation.4 Observations confirm that gas clouds expand; they do not appear to collapse into stars.

Even if we could compress the nebula sufficiently to the point that the force of gravity was strong enough to prevent the gas from expanding, other effects would kick in, thereby preventing the formation of a star. Clouds of gas always have a weak magnetic field, which would be concentrated if the cloud were compressed. This dramatically increases the field strength. The magnetic pressure would halt a shrinking cloud and drive it to re-expand.5 It’s a bit like trying to push the like poles of two magnets together.

Also, gas clouds always have a small amount of angular momentum; they rotate, if ever so slowly. But much like a skater who pulls her arms and legs in as she spins, a collapsing gas cloud would spin-up dramatically. The “centrifugal force” generated would tend to prevent any further collapse. Gas pressure, magnetic field strength, and angular momentum all work to prevent star formation. From a scientific perspective, naturalistic star formation appears unlikely at best. The evidence seems far more consistent with the biblical account—it appears that stars were supernaturally created only thousands of years ago. With blue stars scattered across the cosmos, our universe certainly “looks” young.

16 posted on 09/18/2014 3:06:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: discostu
"...there’s really not much reason to assume any of the other nine have even the slightest understanding of science or logic."

Of course we knew that before reading past the headline.

52 posted on 09/18/2014 6:49:23 PM PDT by mlo
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