So, where will you go when your citizenship is revoked? I don’t know much about New Zealand, but it looked nice on Babe. Singapore seems ok. What about the rest of you? Or maybe you can tell me where to go, not that you ever need an excuse before?
There are already laws on the books that strip citizenship from those who fight for a foreign nation against America.
A narrow reading of the law could be interpreted to exclude the scum who fight for ISIS because they aren’t technically a nation.
Personally I can overlook the lack of nationhood of ISIS.
Sen. Cruz us giving progressives strokes. They’ve got to attack him from every conceivable angle. lol
“If we do not pass this legislation, the consequence will be that Americans fighting alongside ISIS today may come home tomorrow with a U.S. passport, may come home to New York or Los Angeles or Houston or Chicago and innocent Americans may be murdered if the Senate does not act today,” Cruz said yesterday.
Here is where he is wrong in my view.
If they are caught in acts of sedition, try them, using the courts, or kill them on the battlefield as they are engaged in said acts.
To just decide their citizenship should be revoked without due process in their own country by fiat is wrong.
But they can be punished for same.
Should this pass, the unintended consequences will be horrific. Democrats will quickly abuse this law. Soon, any crime the Democrats don't like (such as owning the wrong firearm) could make you an UnPerson. Remember, once you are no longer a citizen, you have no protection under the Bill of Rights.
This idea of Cruz's gets the Nope Train treatment from me.
How long will it take for republicans or christians to be declared a terrorist group and citizenship revoked.
It’s been done before. You might remember the jews in germany. they were not even considered persons.
if he wants to start a crisis where he can order government thugs to shoot people he doesn’t like, that’s how he can provoke his own desired crisis to exploit.
Hmmm...just how many folks have ever been charged with treason in this country anyhow?
This is the list, according to Wikipedia:
Robert Henry Best, convicted of treason on April 16, 1948 and served a life sentence.
John Brown, convicted of treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia in 1859 and executed for attempting to organize armed resistance to slavery.
Iva Toguri D'Aquino, who is frequently identified with "Tokyo Rose" convicted 1949. Subsequently pardoned by President Gerald Ford.
Governor Thomas Dorr 1844, convicted of treason against the state of Rhode Island; see Dorr Rebellion; released in 1845; civil rights restored in 1851; verdict annulled in 1854.
Mildred Gillars, also known as "Axis Sally", convicted of treason on March 8, 1949; served 12 years of a 10- to 30-year prison sentence.
Herbert Hans Haupt, German-born naturalized U.S. citizen, was convicted of treason in 1942 and executed after being named as a German spy by fellow German spies defecting to the United States.
Tomoya Kawakita, sentenced to death for treason in 1952, but eventually released by President John F. Kennedy to be deported to Japan.
Martin James Monti, United States Army Air Forces pilot, convicted of treason for defecting to the Waffen SS in 1944. He was paroled in 1960.
William Bruce Mumford, convicted of treason and hanged in 1862 for tearing down a United States flag during the American Civil War.
Aaron Dwight Stevens, took part in John Brown's raid and was executed in 1860 for treason against Virginia.
Mary Surratt, Lewis Powell, David Herold, and George Atzerodt, all convicted by military tribunal and hanged on July 7, 1865 for treason and conspiracy related to the Lincoln assassination.
Samuel Mudd, convicted with the above, pardoned by President Andrew Johnson after assisting in the containment of a yellow fever outbreak.
Philip Vigol and John Mitchell, convicted of treason and sentenced to hanging; pardoned by George Washington; see Whiskey Rebellion.
I was thinking, if you are no longer a citizen you get in state tuition, free health care, special dispensation on driver licenses, and a free trip to the zoo, among many other perks.
Hyperbole much. Illegal aliens cause more harm to Americans than Islamic 'terrorism'. One does not need to join a terrorist organization to cause harm here. We have enough random acts of violence to cancel out the dangers of blanket bandits.
Not only that, but there is no powers of .gov to take away ones citizenship without due process. Mr. Cruz is using the classic panic button to add more powers to .Gov.
I don’t have a problem with this provided it has a strict and non arbitrary method and clear criteria for the revoking of citizenship. I think the best standard would be to only allow this to be used where an individual has been captured or wounded fighting for the enemy. We don’t want this to turn into some kind of sedition act where someone criticizing a politician or criticizing a military action is labeled a terrorist. I totally agree that if someone is fighting alongside terrorists they should lose their citizenship but we should not let this kind of thing be blurred nor should the power be placed in the hands of one lone politician or bureaucrat.
I’m inclined to oppose this kind of law.
If you are going to revoke someone’s citizenship for joining ISIS, you should at the very least have declared war on it. If you aren’t prepared to declare war, then you have no business revoking someone’s citizenship over it. Especially when they were probably armed by us in the first place. Are we going to revoke Obama’s citizenship?
Trick question, that. :)