Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

CalPERS gets decision: Judge rules Stockton can sever its city pensions (CA)
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/01/2014 | Dale Kasler

Posted on 10/01/2014 4:14:40 PM PDT by aimhigh

In a potentially groundbreaking decision, a federal bankruptcy judge today struck down the sanctity of government pensions in California, saying the city of Stockton has the right to sever its contract with CalPERS.

The verbal ruling from U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Klein, two years after Stockton filed for bankruptcy, was the decision CalPERS longed to avoid.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; calpers; pension; stockton
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
A big domino falls.
1 posted on 10/01/2014 4:14:40 PM PDT by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

That’s a nuclear domino. Watch for lots of other municipalities in CA to start doing this.


2 posted on 10/01/2014 4:16:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #3 Removed by Moderator

To: aimhigh

The money needed to finance the Free S**t Army.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 4:23:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We can make it work with only one square per restroom visit -- Sheryl Crow)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: F15Eagle

“There are a whole lot of unions that will be jumping in on this one”

Not much they can do about it save appeal it up the chain. Bankruptcy law under Chapter 9 is crystal clear, however so they will lose. It’d take an act of Congress to change this and I doubt even Beohner will lift a finger to help out the public sector union leeches in California.

L


5 posted on 10/01/2014 4:23:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

Thanks for posting!


6 posted on 10/01/2014 4:28:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
"Whether Stockton would sever its CalPERS contract is another matter. City Manager Kurt Wilson told the Sacramento Bee that there’s no change in the city’s plan to keep paying CalPERS in full and retaining its full pensions"

The cesspool will not drain.

7 posted on 10/01/2014 4:35:33 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh
I agree the is hugh and series. The union government retires are going to suffer.
8 posted on 10/01/2014 4:39:13 PM PDT by Parley Baer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

Look for the boy to intervene, lots of his sons in Stockton.


9 posted on 10/01/2014 4:51:33 PM PDT by easternsky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

> The result would be a mass exodus of employees, the city says.

I’d bet they lose far less than expected. Simply put, public employees get a pretty good deal.


10 posted on 10/01/2014 5:14:57 PM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh
Their ain't gonna be no California Love with this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SFdI2ejaGw

GM was the warning shot across the bow, Detroit followed. So will it be a bunch of California Cities or Illinois that will be next?

11 posted on 10/01/2014 5:17:24 PM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

I’m not surprised. The USSC has ruled numerous times that local, county and state governments are sovereign, meaning that they can nix contracts passed by previous legislatures.

I’ve had left wing, big government FReepers argue with me that contracts trump the Constitution. Uh-uh. There ain’t no such thing as a plenary legislature. What one group of lawmakers passes in one session can be canceled by the legislative body that follows.


12 posted on 10/01/2014 5:33:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

Interesting. I believe CalPERS has a huge chunk of its money in the PIMCO Total Return fund. DId Bill Gross get a whiff of this decision and jump a sinking ship that he built?


13 posted on 10/01/2014 5:36:53 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

I hope the unions take all their funds to fight this.


14 posted on 10/01/2014 6:11:25 PM PDT by Twotone (Truth is hate to those who hate truth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Thorne

Saw that the other day on Zerohedge. In fact, I think it mentioned that Calpers was pulling their money.


15 posted on 10/01/2014 6:19:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Every trash can has a lid, the DNC lid is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (aka Debbie Dipsh!t))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

Will the Federal government step in to save them like they did with “Government Motors”. Will the bankruptcy judge get visited by NSA and advised to change his ruling? Will the bankruptcy judge die in a strange car accident? Lots of possibilities before Oct 30.


16 posted on 10/01/2014 6:24:39 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Every trash can has a lid, the DNC lid is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (aka Debbie Dipsh!t))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
Not much they can do about it save appeal it up the chain. Bankruptcy law under Chapter 9 is crystal clear, however so they will lose.

Hang on there. I've been involved in a very large corporate BK in Kali and we had a Reagan-appointed judge properly award us the verdict we were looking for, only to be reversed by the ultra-liberal Bankruptcy Appeals Board (BAP) on appeal.

You never know what might happen with the idiots on the BAP.

17 posted on 10/01/2014 7:01:25 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: aimhigh

“The result would be a mass exodus of employees, the city says.”

You have to get all the way to the end for the BIG LIE. With Real Unemployment at 20% in California, WHO CARES? Put a Help Wanted sign out front and you will have ten times the number of applicants on day one.

Union Bribe money is far more important than mere peasant taxpayers money


18 posted on 10/01/2014 7:12:42 PM PDT by eyeamok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: easternsky

“Look for the boy to intervene, lots of his sons in Stockton.”

Actually, the major “constituency” in Stockton are Latinos. The thing here is if Stockton goes through bankruptcy without diddling CalPers, they will be back, just like Vallejo is going to have to go back in because they didn’t really address their public pension exposure. I don’ think that “the boy” has the bandwidth today to get into these issues. HIs sorry a$$ is already on fire, he doesn’t need any gasoline on it.


19 posted on 10/01/2014 7:19:47 PM PDT by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: vette6387
I know there are lots of Mexicans, but think the CalPers are mostly his people. I have no statistics just what I have observed over the years, had a Business there for 20 plus years.
20 posted on 10/01/2014 8:35:51 PM PDT by easternsky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson