Posted on 10/17/2014 7:33:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Yep. “Bush lied. There ARE WMDs there so now I, Barrack Hussein Obama, must reluctantly send in our troops to fix what Bush screwed up.”
Bet the media knew about it all along they know where the leaks are in D.C. they just hated the fact W was right.
The idea is that about 500 old weapons were found. It turns out that it was actually in the neighborhood of 5000. More importantly, they were in viable delivery systems, missiles and artillery. And we’re certain that Saddam had WMD recipes.
Another issue is that these weapons are now 10 years older, BUT they are a huge issue with the ongoing conflict in Iraq. The idea is suddenly, if we put boots on the ground, that these could be used against our troops. (A few months ago there was an article about al Dhouri getting access to some bunkers we knew about and were afraid to enter and did not destroy. Why be afraid of what we were told was harmless?)
Suddenly, all the denigration of the notion that these weapons were ‘old and harmless’ is suddenly out the windows. Not only that, during the actual campaign those poisons were a minimum of 10 years YOUNGER...and, therefore, far more viable than now.
See #63. I agree with you, VSA.
However, Pres Bush should have stood up and defended himself on these.
I have been wondering the same. Idiot senators we're blabbing our intel to news media left and right back then (remember the one senator that announced we were tracking all the targets via their cell phones? I think it was leaky leahy) Right after that all the cell's went dark.
It never ceases to amaze me how republicans know appeasing Muslim enemies doesn’t work, yet they appease liberals every chance they get.
You are correct. I used to post pictures of exploding Sarin gas shells [the Army had on their website] on FR on a regular basis.
I do think W (and Rove) miscalculated in the worst of ways with their "new tone" doctrine. They decided that rebuttal lead to many things: degradation of the political process, polarization, escalation of bitterness, etc. ad nauseum.
This was the worst of political thinking, the worst mistake W (Rove) made. It allowed their (and our) political enemies to drive through boatloads, trainloads of lies in to our lives. Unrebutted they became truth in the minds of many Americans. Our media gladly helped with that, and now our body politic is totally infected with so called truths (lies) that simmer like ebola.
It was the worst thing W did, it was a huge mistake with huge consequences.
This is so messed up.
Freegards
The most important thing it led to was the loss of the White House. The most critical problem with that was the Supreme Court. We were within one justice of a conservative majority on Scotus.
That’s why the one conspiracy theory “hatred of the establishment for the conservatives” appeals to me.
‘.....run a Romney. We HAVE to vote for his opponent.’
You lost me.
No fan of Romney, but I neither had to vote for his opponent, nor did I do so.
‘I do think W (and Rove) miscalculated in the worst of ways with their “new tone” doctrine. They decided that rebuttal lead to many things: degradation of the political process, polarization, escalation of bitterness, etc. ad nauseum.
This was the worst of political thinking, the worst mistake W (Rove) made. It allowed their (and our) political enemies to drive through boatloads, trainloads of lies in to our lives. Unrebutted they became truth in the minds of many Americans. Our media gladly helped with that, and now our body politic is totally infected with so called truths (lies) that simmer like ebola.
It was the worst thing W did, it was a huge mistake with huge consequences. ‘
+1
No one pulls the strings of history other than God. Oh, they try, people really do conspire, but I don't buy the idea this was a conspiracy of anything but the incompetence of W and Rove. Why God allowed this, I hope to find out some day.
Just my opinion. Decent man, horrid president, but not for the reasons given us by the media or the left.
The state of Saddam’s WMD arsenal is the biggest lie that has ever been told in my lifetime (and probably ever will be told).
Saddam had the biggest WMD arsenal in the Middle East and was closing in on nuclear weapons. He shipped most of it to Syria while Bush was screwing around with the UN. But loads of the stuff was still present when we went in.
After a decade of lies and coverups many Americans became convinced that the largest WMD arsenal in the Middle East had all been an illusion.
Perhaps if Benjamin Netanyahu finally grows some balls and strikes Iran’s nuclear facilities, the left will tells us for the next decade that Iran’s nukes were all an illusion too?
Sorry, but you incorrectly presume that the Republipukes have a different agenda than the Democraps.
The only political battle going on in the USA today is between the elected (them) vs. the electorate (us) and the elected continue to dupe the electorate into believing that they're on our side.
They aren't and haven't been for a very, very long time.
He was trying to acquire them?
??
Funny stuff.
Are you suggesting we invade and start bombing Communist China? How about North Korea? How about half a dozen other countries?
What kind of BS is this?
Cause Rummy sold em to them in the first place!
We are now living and dying with Obola fart,as a result of this
W knew WHO 0b0la was! He had Standing! He swore an oath to protect uphold and defend the Constitution, and he broke it by ceding the office to a KNOWN Ineligible applicant!
It really is Bush's fault!
There was never any doubt that Saddam had poison artillery shells, he had used them on the Iranians and the Kurds before Gulf War I.
Since we halted at the Kuwait border at the end of GWI we had to rely on UNSCOM weapons inspectors to locate WMDs and have them destroyed. Saddam booted the inspectors out in 1998. I don’t know of anything other than chemical shells being found by the weapons inspectors prior to Gulf War II.
The yellowcake removed to Canada in 2008 that has everyone’s attention today (Rush) was known about and wasn’t considered by us to be part of a WMD program. This is material that had been stored at the site of Iraq’s former reactors, the one bombed by Israel in 1981 and one we bombed during Desert Storm in 1991.
Yellowcake is a very long way from being bomb material. It is only mildly radioactive. You get about the same level of radiation from it that you do if you fly in a jet. It is over 99% U-238 but you need U-235 to make a bomb. There is a whole lot of processing required to get that tiny amount of U-235 out of yellowcake.
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