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The Pope Would Like You to Accept Evolution and the Big Bang
Smithsonian ^ | 10/28/14 | Colin Schultz

Posted on 10/29/2014 2:22:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

.... Pope Francis, the head of the Roman Catholic Church, said that Darwinian evolution is real, and so is the Big Bang....

...the new Pope's quasi-heretical claim isn't anywhere near the first of its kind. The church first brought evolution into the fold in 1950 with the work of Pope Pius XII, writes io9. “At the same time, Catholics take no issue with the Big Bang theory, along with cosmological, geological, and biological axioms touted by science.”

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: darwinism; godless; heresy
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To: SoFloFreeper

He’s a well meaning man whose views are liberal and off base and he is totally clueless about the importance of carefully parsing his statements so the mainstream media can’t “re-interpret” what he is stating.


21 posted on 10/29/2014 4:34:32 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“...the new Pope’s quasi-heretical claim “

Bump for later read...but this claim is the result of ignorance. The Church has never had a problem with evolution or the Big Bang or any specifically scientific claim. Calling for belief in standard science is the orthodox Catholic position. At least Francis is orthodox about something.


22 posted on 10/29/2014 4:36:05 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

http://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Entropy-The-Mystery-Genome/dp/0981631606/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414582891&sr=8-1&keywords=genomic+entropy

An interesting read.


23 posted on 10/29/2014 4:40:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Claud

Not long before Benedict XVI resigned, he did make a statement along the lines that Genesis is not a scientific explanation of Creation. He set forth the reasoning that as an Ancient story, Genesis makes the point that God did create the world and man and that man became aware of both God and right and wrong. The six days of Genesis could just as as easily have been 6 trillion years. A literal interpretation of Genesis leaves way too many questions that go unanswered (who did Cain have children with?) and set up a false logical conflicts between science and religion (6000 years verses the age of the Earth/fossils that are millions of years old, etc.)

It seems that in approaching the work of Darwin, far too many Darwinists and Christians lump all of his work together and see no distinction between his scientific observations of evolutionary processes and his theory that evolution is somehow the explanation of the Origin of Species. Where the evolutionary observations provide a sound scientific theory for explaining changes within species, they do not explain the origins of any species. Darwin’s theory that random evolutionary processes somehow explain the origins of life itself remains an unproven theory with strong evidence that it is scientific error.
(I wrote a little bit about this idea in God’s Sudoku http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2964965/posts.)

Bottom line; science does point toward the need for a Creator to put life here. All the Darwinists molecular biologists nor all the Big Bang theorists have still not come up with scientific proof of the origin of species nor of man evolving from lower species.

The stories in Genesis were written for ancient societies who had no knowledge of science, but made the eternal point that it was God who created the Heavens and Earth and put us here. I believe we will soon get back to the point where many scientists will arrive at the conclusions of Louis Pasteur, the father of modern Micro Biology, that all the scientific knowledge we gain points to the need for God to create it all.

All the Best!

Bill


24 posted on 10/29/2014 4:43:58 AM PDT by Bill Russell (Bring back Benedict indeed.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He’s had a lot of problems with his communications. He should be an expert communicator so it looks intentional to me.


25 posted on 10/29/2014 4:46:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ZULU; SoFloFreeper

“’Totally agree with you but evolutionists real, it doesn’t contradict scripture and Christians should stop making this a theological issue!”

Christians haven’t made it a theological issue. They are responding to those who insist evolution proves religion is wrong and God doesn’t exist.


26 posted on 10/29/2014 4:49:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Creation ex nihilo = big bang


27 posted on 10/29/2014 5:00:29 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Trailerpark Badass

If Adam was a product of evolution rather than a special creation, then Christ was a liar and and Christianity is a fraud. It’s as simple as that.


28 posted on 10/29/2014 5:07:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The church first brought evolution into the fold in 1950 with the work of Pope Pius XII

Try St Augustine, 1600 years ago, who said that Genesis is written the way it is as a condescension to our limited understanding.

That's the same St Augustine called "the doctor of grace" and "the first Protestant," BTW.

29 posted on 10/29/2014 5:11:36 AM PDT by Campion
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To: driftdiver

I don’t understand why this is big news.

1. A priest first posited the idea of the Big Bang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

2. It is my understanding that Catholics have a less literal understanding of the early books of the Bible. I, myself, view the first chapter of the bible as an explanation of the “rat race” of technology vs. simpler, pre-technological times - that for the last 16,000 years or so, technology and complexity, “the tree of knowledge” (starting with the division of labor) has brought us more problems, which required more technology to solve them, which brought us more problems...


30 posted on 10/29/2014 5:15:38 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Campion

Yes, it’s dumbed down.


31 posted on 10/29/2014 5:16:40 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: driftdiver
I’m not Catholic either but he also said there would be no big bang without God.


32 posted on 10/29/2014 5:17:56 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: driftdiver

“Christians haven’t made it a theological issue. They are responding to those who insist evolution proves religion is wrong and God doesn’t exist.”

Exactly! NEITHER evolution or the Big Bang are theories/discoveries incompatible with the existence of God - no matter how hard some try to misrepresent them.


33 posted on 10/29/2014 5:20:11 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
father of big bang a Catholic Priest
34 posted on 10/29/2014 5:20:17 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: P-Marlowe

Sorry, I don’t see your “simple” conclusion. But if Genesis is to be taken completely literally, the universe is about 6,500 years old, meaning either (a) huge chunks of science are completely wrong; or (b) God is an elaborate hoaxer who built a universe that lies to us. Neither conclusion is very compatible with faith.


35 posted on 10/29/2014 5:21:07 AM PDT by Campion
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To: SoFloFreeper

36 posted on 10/29/2014 5:21:46 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: P-Marlowe
Nonsense. I think many Christians feel God's method of creation is not sufficiently dignified for their liking.

Evolution and "special creation" are not mutually exclusive.

37 posted on 10/29/2014 5:25:47 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And Jesus answered them, “Have you not read in the Scriptures that God created them from the beginning and made them male and female.” (Matthew 19:4, Mark 10:6)

Jesus didn’t believe in evolution or the Big Bang and neither do Christians.


38 posted on 10/29/2014 5:29:14 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Claud
Bring back Benedict indeed.

Benedict was a great intellect....Francis is a good but simple man.

Both were Holy and have their role in God's plan.

39 posted on 10/29/2014 5:32:13 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Campion

Yes, the “finite cannot grasp the infinite” was a notion Calvin taught, perhaps as an echo of Augustine.

Macro-evolutionary biology is not a necessary inference from this idea.


40 posted on 10/29/2014 5:33:04 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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