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Hyundai, Kia Fined $100 Million Over Misleading Gas Mileage Figures
NPR ^ | 11-3-14 | Eyder Peralta

Posted on 11/03/2014 9:06:42 AM PST by TurboZamboni

In a settlement the Justice Department is calling "unprecedented," Korean car makers Hyundai and Kia have agreed to pay a $100 million civil penalty for overstating the gas mileage on 1.2 million vehicles. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, the settlement is the largest in Clean Air Act history. "Greenhouse gas emission laws protect the public from the dangers of climate change, and today's action reinforces EPA's commitment to see those laws through," EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy said in a press release. In a statement, Hyundai said it had reduced the combined city/highway fuel economy of a quarter of its 2011-2013 model year vehicles by 1 to 2 miles per gallon.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cafe; epa; korean; mileage
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EPA will get millions.Lawyers will get millions.Customers will get a few dollars each and the satisfaction of warm feelings from Algore and pleasing Gaia.
1 posted on 11/03/2014 9:06:42 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Government shake-down, unless the Feds pass the money along to the car buyers FIRST.

I know, dream on.


2 posted on 11/03/2014 9:09:37 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism cannot survive without conservatives to fund it.)
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To: TurboZamboni

That is a lot of money in fines for what sounds like a very small “crime”


3 posted on 11/03/2014 9:10:20 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TurboZamboni

What are the chances its the Ethanol, and Ethanol changes from 0 to E10 to E15 that are responsible for the mileage difference ??!?


4 posted on 11/03/2014 9:10:32 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: GeronL

I agree. 1 or 2 miles per gallon? I do worse than that in how I drive.


5 posted on 11/03/2014 9:11:34 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: TurboZamboni

More non-union automakers gets hit up the regime.


6 posted on 11/03/2014 9:13:10 AM PST by AU72
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To: ican'tbelieveit

temperature, altitude and stuff could account for this much difference


7 posted on 11/03/2014 9:13:47 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TurboZamboni

A better explanation of the problem is here:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/hyundai-kia-pay-us-100m-overstating-mpg-26654525

Bottom line-the EPA is the source of the problem, not the manufacturers (Ford, BMW, and Mercedes have also had the same problem).

“But Hyundai said automaker interpretations of the tests vary because regulations don’t specify exactly how to do the tests. Tire rolling resistance, engine warm-up, winds and other factors can vary between EPA tests and those done by automakers, the company said.”


8 posted on 11/03/2014 9:15:52 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: GeronL

Show me any car that gets the advertised mileage. That animal does not exist.


9 posted on 11/03/2014 9:16:04 AM PST by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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Misleading Gas Mileage Figures

The gas mileage figures for my wife's Hyundai Genesis was misleading but in her favor.

The published figures indicated she could expect 28 MPG for highway miles. She regularly gets 30-32 MPG and often higher over 200-300 miles distances. She was pleasantly surprised and I was pleased.

10 posted on 11/03/2014 9:17:50 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is a JD hoax and an example of how a communists club organization works. There is no way to accurately measure MPG since depends of so many variables.


11 posted on 11/03/2014 9:17:52 AM PST by Logical me
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To: beelzepug

The idea is that all cars should be tested the same way under the same conditions, so comparisons would be valid.

If the EPA is vague about how the tests are to be done, as Hyundai claims, then yes, the numbers are somewhat meaningless.


12 posted on 11/03/2014 9:19:57 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Interestingly, two years ago Hyundai proactively “came clean” about this to all of us new buyers and have offered us rebates in the form of prepaid VISA cards with the amount determined based on our odometer readings. So not only did they not sweep it under the rug, but they went out of their way to compensate owners, many of whom made a purchase decision based on expectation of gas mileage.


13 posted on 11/03/2014 9:20:00 AM PST by MissNomer
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She must have got the kim-chee vapor injector option. It do make a difference.

; >)


14 posted on 11/03/2014 9:21:52 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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Hyundai, Kia Fined $100 Million

Quiz question for informed Americans:

Who will pay the $100 million fine?

Hint: it will not be Hyundai or Kia.

15 posted on 11/03/2014 9:22:19 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: GeronL

I thought the mileage numbers came from the EPA?.............................


16 posted on 11/03/2014 9:25:47 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: beelzepug; GeronL

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/

17 posted on 11/03/2014 9:27:27 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Then the EPA should pay the fines


18 posted on 11/03/2014 9:30:16 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

The way that the EPA mileage is calculated is stupid. IIRC, the EPA highway mileage is calculated on a level gradient at a constant 55 mph for a period of time and is then extrapolated out to get a result. This is why no one gets the EPA sticker mileage.


19 posted on 11/03/2014 9:31:41 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: beelzepug

My car claims 30 mpg highway. I get between 32 and 40, depending on how I drive.


20 posted on 11/03/2014 9:35:59 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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