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Yes, the Republican Obamacare Strategy Will Kill People
New York Magazine ^ | November 10, 2014 | By Jonathan Chait

Posted on 11/11/2014 6:12:16 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

There is a famous thought experiment called the trolley problem, and it goes like this: A runaway trolley is headed toward five people bound on the tracks. You are standing before the switch that could divert it onto another track, where it would kill only one person. Do you pull the switch?

The trolley problem is the most flattering possible way to think about the conservative movement’s fanatical commitment to repealing Obamacare.

If they pull the switch and repeal Obamacare, or if they persuade five Republican Supreme Court justices to cripple it, they will spare America from the evils of mandates, taxes, regulation, and what they imagine to be European socialist horrors. They will also kill what are now identifiable human beings.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; baitandswitch; deathpanels; failure; healthcarerationing; huac; husseins; hysteria; obamacare; obamalied; propaganda; rinocare; singlepayer; socialism; socializedmedicine; strawman; unaffordablecareact; youcankeepitgate
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Jonathan Chait must have missed the comments from Jonathan Gruber. Obamacare was a lie from the beginning and relied on the stupidity of voters, congress, and editorial writers.
1 posted on 11/11/2014 6:12:16 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bump


2 posted on 11/11/2014 6:13:34 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Worst Jedi mind trick ever.

What a lying sack of Chait.

3 posted on 11/11/2014 6:14:50 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

and the 5 million who lost their healthcare because of Obamacare ? what of THEIR health!?


4 posted on 11/11/2014 6:16:52 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“They will also kill what are now identifiable human beings.”

Why is the Left always upset about this? It’s just a late-late term abortion! They love it when babies and our elderly, ‘useless feeders’ are left to die.

What’s the problem, Lefties? Are ya mad that only ONE will be killed, versus five?

*SMIRK*


5 posted on 11/11/2014 6:19:25 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But of course the idea of Death Panels is laughable.


6 posted on 11/11/2014 6:20:16 AM PST by skeeter
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To: TexasFreeper2009
and the 5 million who lost their healthcare because of Obamacare ? what of THEIR health!?

Correct. Obamacare is switching the trolley away from the one person and towards the five.

I just got my insurance package for 2015. My rates are going up 25%. I'll now be paying over $6000 to cover my family for the year.

I suspect a lot of people are going to choose to go without and people will die as a result.

7 posted on 11/11/2014 6:22:10 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

50-60 million aborted babies are of no concern I suppose.


8 posted on 11/11/2014 6:23:54 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama care is a lie, if anyones to blame it his the liar and chief and his clown posse.


9 posted on 11/11/2014 6:24:51 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A useless straw man argument that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.

10 posted on 11/11/2014 6:25:55 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Repeal it, save America from this abomination, and further sweep congress + the white house in 2016.


11 posted on 11/11/2014 6:27:29 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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Really? This is the smart liberal argument against repealing Obamacare? That Republicans want to kill people? Obviously, among other reasons, it is now clear that Obamacare must go because the burden of defending it seems to be causing psychological derangement and organic brain damage in liberals.
12 posted on 11/11/2014 6:27:38 AM PST by Rockingham
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$6000? That’s darn cheap. Thank your lucky stars that’s ALL it is. We are approaching $16000 in premiums alone for hubby and me.


13 posted on 11/11/2014 6:27:47 AM PST by sheana
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Actually, the question needs to be rephrased:

“A runaway trolley is headed toward five people bound on the tracks. You are standing before the switch that could divert it onto another track, where it would kill only one person.

“And the person on that other track is a welfare recipient, frequent criminal offender, illegal alien radical Muslim drug dealer, who is a reliable Democrat-socialist who votes fraudulently several times in every election, and wants America destroyed.”

Do you pull the switch? Do you argue with other conservatives over who gets to pull the switch?


14 posted on 11/11/2014 6:33:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Chait iis a dutiful Obama boot licker.


15 posted on 11/11/2014 6:38:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

+1


16 posted on 11/11/2014 6:43:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: TexasFreeper2009
and the 5 million who lost their healthcare because of Obamacare ? what of THEIR health!?

Democrats don't consider them to be "identifiable human beings."

17 posted on 11/11/2014 6:44:23 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Straight Vermonter

Our office sells health insurance (among a number of other financial services products and functions).

I was listening to one of the reps on the phone the other day, helping someone who called in. She told the person, “realistically, your monthly premium for your family of four, is going to be in the range of $1,300 to $2,000 for next year”.

I gulped. People in Omaha, Nebraska do not have that kind of money for health insurance premiums. That is much more than most pay for housing, would take one worker’s entire take-home paycheck just to pay the insurance premiums... not even considering the deductibles and co-pays.

This is what 0bamacare has created, with the cost-shifting, subsidies, and mandates for coverage people do not want or need, the insurance is not affordable for most people who have to go it alone, without subsidies and/or employer assistance with the premiums.


18 posted on 11/11/2014 6:44:51 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: TexasFreeper2009
and the 5 million who lost their healthcare because of Obamacare ? what of THEIR health!?

And let's be honest. Repealing Obamacare will also cause millions to lose their healthcare, many of whom probably are among those who lost their healthcare to begin with. But this time the media will be all over it and blame the Republicans for it.

19 posted on 11/11/2014 6:48:35 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not that gun running to Mexico will kill people.


20 posted on 11/11/2014 6:50:05 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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