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To: WhiskeyX

It’s about time. I am certainly no fan of Obama but there are two things I expected him to do and am amazed he hasn’t done. The first was to end the pointless and self-destructive War on Drugs. The second was to end the cruel and pointless embargo on Cuba. This isn’t the 1960’s anymore and the Castros are dying. If we can have normal relations with China, Burma and Vietnam we can certainly have them with Cuba.


4 posted on 12/17/2014 7:06:11 AM PST by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

Castro needs the embargo, and he will make the conditions so unreasonable that the US will never agree to them.


8 posted on 12/17/2014 7:07:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jalisco555
At this point, if Obama is for it, I am against it.

He's been consistently anti-American.

9 posted on 12/17/2014 7:07:44 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: jalisco555

And there’s a good chance that our next POTUS will be named Castro.


10 posted on 12/17/2014 7:08:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jalisco555

I totally agree. Once people in communist countries are exposed to the “rest of the world” it doesn’t take long for the regime to fail or at the very least make major reforms.


20 posted on 12/17/2014 7:17:53 AM PST by Minsc
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To: jalisco555

There’s a little matter of all of that US-owned property Castro stole.


21 posted on 12/17/2014 7:18:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: jalisco555

The embargo against Cuba hasn’t done anything but depress the Cuban economy and make Cuban cigars unobtainable. It hasn’t worked for fifty years, and it is time to try something new. Obama finally got one right.

Cynically, despite my agreement with Obama on this matter, I suspect that it takes Florida out-of-play for the Demoncrats in 2016.


33 posted on 12/17/2014 7:30:39 AM PST by bagman
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To: jalisco555

“If we can have normal relations with China, Burma and Vietnam we can certainly have them with Cuba.”

Yes, about time we sent them foreign aid!


34 posted on 12/17/2014 7:30:40 AM PST by DBrow
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To: jalisco555

Disagree with you on both points.


50 posted on 12/17/2014 8:00:09 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jalisco555
If we can have normal relations with China, Burma and Vietnam we can certainly have them with Cuba.

Exactly. The US signed free trade deals with China back in the late 80's or early 90's, when China was every bit as repressive as Cuba. It always seemed the height of hypocrisy to me that we had free trade and diplomatic relations with China right after Tiananmen Square, while Cuba was somehow beyond the pale.

The only reason for it was that neither party would touch the issue with Florida a swing state decided by the Cuban expatriate vote in Miami. The younger generation of Cuban-Americans, however, now either doesn't care or opposes the sanctions, so that's the real reason the ball is rolling on this one.

74 posted on 12/17/2014 8:21:19 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: jalisco555
I am certainly no fan of Obama but there are two things I expected him to do and am amazed he hasn’t done. The first was to end the pointless and self-destructive War on Drugs.

I'm not amazed - the War on Drugs is the quintessential liberal program, utopian in its aims and serving only to provide salaries for those who implement it.

77 posted on 12/17/2014 8:23:36 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: jalisco555

Castros are not dead yet and they have lined thousands up in front of ditches and mowed them and it is still being done if you open your month and say the wrong thing. THis is just more of Obama’s cozing up to dictators. The marxist,leftist bastard.


83 posted on 12/17/2014 8:30:45 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: jalisco555

Hard to believe how many liberals post here.


84 posted on 12/17/2014 8:32:12 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: jalisco555

I absolutely agree.


92 posted on 12/17/2014 8:44:02 AM PST by arderkrag (The biggest problem faced by any FReeper: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)
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You couldn't be more wrong on both issues. In terms of drugs, President Ronald Reagan stated, "Drugs are bad, and we're going after them. As I've said before, we've taken down the surrender flag and run up the battle flag. And we're going to win the war on drugs.". In terms of Cuba, that communist rogue state poses a threat to America and that threat must be neutralized. Extending any form of tolerance to the enemy is wrong. The barbarism that defines communism must be halted, especially when that disease is within 100 miles of the Republic.
111 posted on 12/17/2014 9:10:00 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: jalisco555

Agreed.


112 posted on 12/17/2014 9:10:02 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: jalisco555

Normalized relations with communist countries have turned us into the mess we are today. Got any more pro-communist sentiments to share?


124 posted on 12/17/2014 9:19:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Cozying up to communist countries by the US will not end the tyranny their people live under. Tyranny feeds upon free countries’ generosity.


197 posted on 12/17/2014 10:43:50 AM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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I agree. 50+ years and nothing good has come out of it. I'm just glad a democrat has done this because it's not going to be a popular move especially for many voters in Florida.

This is probably the first action Obama has done that I do not disagree with him on but I'm sure his message and objective is not in line with my own and probably not with yours. He loves commies and is rewarding them for being as anti-american as he is. That's how he sees it. We see it differently. I do not agree with how Obama’s doing this.

We should normalize relations with Cuba as much as we have with Vietnam. I've seen many positive results coming out of Vietnam since normalizing relations with them... still a lot of work for them to do but certainly not the same Vietnam of the 80s and 90s.

204 posted on 12/17/2014 11:07:03 AM PST by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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“Normal” What the hell are you talking about? Ever been to Cuba? Know anybody who worked with the opposition in country? The Hollywood view of Cuba— the ideal 50’s martini bar light a joint crowd— like Jamaica, mon!

Vietnam has only come over to us because China is ripping off their mineral rights. China, their ancient enemy. China continues their hegemony, and btw is not 90 miles from the US in the first place. God give the Japanese the fortitude to dial them back—soon, and the Phillipines. Spare us the iphone ripoff tyrants in Beijing, the prison factories, the human rights nightmare, the owners of North Korea.

The #1 drug dealers in the Carribean ARE the Castro brothers. Lots of literature/sources on this, to include the show trial of a very popular general in Cuba, for ... drug dealing (which he was not doing- he was becoming more popular than the Castros or Alarcon) Stalinist totalitarian police state run by the Castros, and believe me, by their many descendents/gangsters in power— MANY generations worth now in the political apparatus of a police state- corrupt and dedicated marxists. The ONLY way to stop this shiite is a revolt against the entire island plantation prison.

Yeah, I get the drug legalization crapola- that would make everything better, sure nuff. You miss a great deal of the big picture— world wide big picture. Cause of course, we need the Cuban medical people “helping” the US fight Ebola in Sierra Leone. Right. Got it. They are so advanced (per Michael Moore, LOL).

The next step is Gitmo. That be OK, also? And freeing the terrorists (like the 3 intel agents let go today who murdered 5 American citizens). It is NOT about time. It is time for the Ceaucescu’s of Cuba to go— especially Alarcon.

Try talking with real Cuban expats. Jimmy Carter all over again only now the stoner choomer Present_dent of the World— the genius, sure. And dope, lot’s of dope (which is why they call it dope— it creates obamaumaos and ton ton macoutes). That way Kerry can windsurf at Varadero, maybe buy up an estate or two and hang out with Hemingways. Deo Vindice.


267 posted on 12/17/2014 4:16:07 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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You sound like such a nice little libbie.


297 posted on 12/17/2014 5:30:12 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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