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I read through the propagandistic beginning paragraphs and into the historical blunders, but as I got to the more modern period (WMD, CIA torture report), I began to wonder why the Times printed this article, especially when Mr. Fein seems to take for granted the "truth" of the biased CIA torture report.
1 posted on 01/02/2015 6:43:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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I like the Washington Times but every so often, they come out with “shocker” editorials. I will see how people comment on it but it seems awfully silly and dumb to me.


2 posted on 01/02/2015 6:46:05 PM PST by BeadCounter
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cia isn’t nearly the problem the nsa is.

that is what needs to be gotten rid of.


4 posted on 01/02/2015 6:48:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I’d say it’s time to abolish the writings of Bruce Fein.


5 posted on 01/02/2015 6:48:39 PM PST by Hawthorn
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No barf alert?


6 posted on 01/02/2015 6:48:40 PM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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I’d expect this from the Compost, not the Times.


8 posted on 01/02/2015 6:49:23 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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It’s gotta be a distraction piece because there are ENDLESS things that need to be addressed right now in this country with much more urgency than this.


10 posted on 01/02/2015 6:50:51 PM PST by uncitizen (2015 Here we come!)
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Fein has written many articles like this. I’ve yet to read one where I agreed with his premise. If Fein believes roughing up a few terrorists constitutes torture, he’s a fool and a tool.


12 posted on 01/02/2015 6:51:56 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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savagery is justified to defeat perceived savages.

Pretty much the way it works if you want to win.

14 posted on 01/02/2015 6:52:23 PM PST by eldoradude (It doesn't matter how many it takes, the lightbulb has already been stolen.)
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My problem with the CIA over the years is that it frequently leans too far left. Lots of Ivy Leaguers.

But we can’t afford to abolish our intelligence agency. Fix and improve it, maybe, but that’s not possible as long as the current politicians are in power.


17 posted on 01/02/2015 6:59:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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“The CIA will never accept that it works for we the people and our representatives in Congress; and, that the United States Constitution and laws govern everything the CIA does. It will never accept accountability for its actions —”

If this feller was consistent he would be calling to abolish the state department and Obama hisself.


18 posted on 01/02/2015 7:00:05 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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Then bring back the OSS.

19 posted on 01/02/2015 7:00:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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The Washington Times needs to be abolished for even suggesting such a thing. Is our nation to be blind in a world filled with predators? I don't think so.
20 posted on 01/02/2015 7:00:40 PM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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Let's compromise and get rid of the State Department instead.
21 posted on 01/02/2015 7:02:00 PM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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Fein was once a relatively stable/rational conservative but he drifted into the Libertarian camp of Rep. Ron Paul and never emerged from that “mental black hole”.

His perception of the real world has been badly warped so take what he says with a great deal of caution.

However, he is a good writing so read him very carefully because of the hidden nuances he uses.


22 posted on 01/02/2015 7:03:06 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Like anything, it will rise or fall depending on the quality and character of its members. If it is broken, fix it.

If it is abolished, who would do its necessary tasks?

Everything in the hands of fallen mankind is subject to corruption. The key is to have checks, balances and corrections.


23 posted on 01/02/2015 7:03:40 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Abolish:

1) EPA
2) Dept. of Education
3) Dept. of Housing and Urban Develpment
4) IRS
5) The new pseudo agency Obama created to monitor everyone's finances (Don't remember the name of it.)
6) Every program, agency, position, and all funding for ObamaCare.

That's a start. Leave the CIA alone.
24 posted on 01/02/2015 7:03:46 PM PST by StormEye
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Yeah, hand it all over to the Times.

Look, its a messy business, but in general its clean.


28 posted on 01/02/2015 7:11:03 PM PST by mylife
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“It is better to risk being the victim of injustice than to be complicit in it.”

WTF has this ever been a pillar of America?


29 posted on 01/02/2015 7:12:59 PM PST by mylife
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It needs to be reformed, but not done away with. Clandestine HUMINT at the national level of intelligence will always be needed.

The National intelligence officers keep making the wrong ASSUMPTIONS when dealing with terrorism and political Islam. This is not exclusively the CIA's fault. Ultimately, CIA has to support national strategy. It doesn't help when a sitting president declares Islam to be peaceful (thus, cutting off any competing analysis), then a subsequent two-term president being at a minimum, sympathetic to Islam.

It's almost as if the game is rigged. We cannot win anymore. We Americans talk about jobs and gas prices; meanwhile we have enemies gathering to take us out for good.

30 posted on 01/02/2015 7:14:09 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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“have became.” Unlettered putz.


32 posted on 01/02/2015 7:16:53 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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