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Vox Writer Wants 'Anti-Democratic' U.S. Senate Abolished
NewsBusters ^ | January 3, 2015 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 01/03/2015 3:00:56 PM PST by PJ-Comix

WAAAAAAH!!! I don't like my Windows 8 so I think I'll dump it!

Okay, no big deal. Most of us are not pleased with that operating system. However, Dylan Matthews of General Electric Vox displays the same glibness which, while perhaps appropriate to switching computer operating systems, is completely absurd when wanting to toss over 200 years of constitutional federalism overboard by deciding to abolish the U.S. Senate because he has decided it is "anti-democratic." Here is Dylan making the case that the Founding Fathers were in error:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; dylanmatthews; generalelectric; generalelectricvox; senate; seventeenthamendment; vox
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To: KarlInOhio

“Unicameral Parliament? Bicameral legislature? Separation of powers? Dylan would be totally confused by your post


21 posted on 01/03/2015 3:44:01 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: PJ-Comix

The ‘right’ thinking left believes the Constitution sounds like right-wing talking points ...


22 posted on 01/03/2015 3:45:35 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: I cannot think of a name
I guess that also means we have to redraw the boundaries of the states to make them all the same size, and people will have to be resettled so that every state has the same number.

An alternative will be for FEMA to relocate people to balance the numbers.

I'm certain there are several plans already drawn up to do exactly that.


23 posted on 01/03/2015 3:49:36 PM PST by Iron Munro (Conservative Epitaph: Don't Cry For Me , You Still Have Two More Years Of Obama)
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To: Libloather
"We are a very different country than we were 200 years ago," Clinton said. "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it's time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president."

I would love to hear this in a debate with hiLIARy:

"Mrs. Clinton, the President of the United States swears to 'Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States. That requires a basic knowledge of the Constitution. The Constitution guarantees a Republican form of government. Please show me in the Constitution where the word Democracy is ever used. I have a copy here if need one."

24 posted on 01/03/2015 3:51:12 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: PJ-Comix

Who cares what this pip squeak has to say about anything?Never heard of her....it.


25 posted on 01/03/2015 3:52:48 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Everytime the cash register rings in a gun store, a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Why not just move straight to the People’s Rupublic of Cuba?


26 posted on 01/03/2015 3:54:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: PJ-Comix

OF COURSE the Senate is “anti-democratic” That’s the point, and the founders’ intent. It’s republican, and was even more so before the misguided 17th Amendment was passed. The anti-democratic Senate is supposed to be one of our defenses against the horrors of democracy.


27 posted on 01/03/2015 3:54:25 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Sherman Logan

Wyoming should improve the quality of their Senators.


28 posted on 01/03/2015 3:55:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: PJ-Comix

He hasn’t thought this through to the ultimate conclusion.

The senate would then be more like the House of representatives which is generally more conservative.

Imagine what would have happened to the democrats agenda the last two years if the senate had the same republican/demmocrat ratio as the House.


29 posted on 01/03/2015 3:56:57 PM PST by Iron Munro (Conservative Epitaph: Don't Cry For Me , You Still Have Two More Years Of Obama)
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To: PJ-Comix

We already have the best Senators money can buy.


30 posted on 01/03/2015 3:57:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Bob

“Sorry, I don’t have a copy of the Constitution handy to check.”

Here you go. Use mine:
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html


31 posted on 01/03/2015 4:00:08 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Apparently Dylan doesn’t understand that our Republic is a union of fifty sovereign states.


32 posted on 01/03/2015 4:05:20 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Was the author all for abolishing the senate when the democrats controlled the majority or does he have this sentiment only when the republicans control the senate majority?


33 posted on 01/03/2015 4:06:03 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: PJ-Comix

Looks like the love child of Jonathan Gruber and Pajama Boy.


34 posted on 01/03/2015 4:08:42 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Thanks. I couldn’t recall the exact wording.


35 posted on 01/03/2015 4:16:34 PM PST by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
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To: PJ-Comix; All
The low-information Vox writer unsurprisingly overlooks the following about the Senate. The Founding States had intended for legal majority voters in a given state pay for and enjoy as many “government” services as they authorize their state - not the federal government - to tax and spend for.

More specifically, the Founding States had given constitutional control of the federal Senate uniquely to state lawmakers. This was done partly so that the Senate could kill any House appropriations bill which established taxes for issues which the states had never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific powers to address. This is because House appropriations bills which cannot be justified under Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers arguably steal state revenues. Justice John Marshall had put it this way.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

But as a consequence of the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A), low-information voters, voters who have probably never been taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers including limited power to tax, are now regularly tricked into abusing their voting power by corrupt federal politicians who promise such voters federal spending programs which are based on constitutionally nonexistant federal government powers.

Again, basically as a consequence of 17A, the corrupt feds are stealing what are arguably state revenues by means of constitutionally indefensible federal taxes which the corrupt, voter-controlled Senate fails to stop. The Founders had intended for the states, not the corrupt feds, to provide most domestic “government” services.

36 posted on 01/03/2015 4:16:59 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: PJ-Comix

Geez, male or female? Racial Madcow is more masculine by far.


37 posted on 01/03/2015 4:17:34 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: DJ Taylor

Thanks. Bookmarked.


38 posted on 01/03/2015 4:17:46 PM PST by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I assure you they could gerrymander something up to their liking in no time at all.

Now that could be interesting. Chicago and Detroit in the same state, perhaps.

39 posted on 01/03/2015 4:50:19 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Libloather
Hillary Clinton: "I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people...

I wonder if this dunce realizes that the USA is officially a republic, and not a democracy. And I wonder if she even knows the difference between the two.

If Hillary had gone to law school, she would be aware of all this. Oh, wait a minute. She did go to law school.

40 posted on 01/03/2015 4:55:44 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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