Even if one believes the denial that US forces drew their weapons (and I don’t), they still aren’t denying the fact that US forces and Palis went into Jewish territory without coordinating with the government.
Nor are they giving an explanation as to what caused this unprecedented confrontation between US forces and the Israelis.
That tells me all I need to know.
Also the fact that the US and Palis were doing this unscheduled West Bank incursion on New Year’s Day makes it twice as bad.
Do they ever take a day off or were they just stirring up trouble on the holiday?
“Even if one believes the denial that US forces drew their weapons (and I don’t), they still aren’t denying the fact that US forces and Palis went into Jewish territory without coordinating with the government.”
Have you considered, you know, lying less? It might help your case. Just a friendly suggestion.
Note the above-mentioned story: “American consular officials Friday during a visit the officials made to the West Bank...”
That iss area under the legal and administrative control of the “Palis” as you put it; regardless of how one views the legitimacy of post-1967 borders or what you think of standing international agreements between the parties, trying to make it sound like the U.S. and various “Palis” were screaming around inside Israeli territory without permission is an outrageous lie. That’s the kind of lie apt to make one look like a fool, or a tool.
Further, the consular officials were invited by the legal authority of that territory to observe an area of international contention and hear the other side of the story, and like reasonable third parties the consulate officials took the diplomatic route and heard the locals out... until some other locals got pissy and started throwing rocks. Then, according to Israeli police (as opposed to the dickheads throwing rocks) the Americans scrupulously avoided conflict and let themselves get chased off.
There’s a settlement nearby, Adi Ad. But nearby isn’t “IN”. As a comparison, Juarez is situated nearby El Paso, but it certainly ain’t Texas. If some two-bit officials were walking around El Paso and suffered a stoning from some folks from Juarez, you wouldn’t claim that the politicos had invaded Mexico now would you?
Further, these are the same nutballs that like to throw rocks at ambulances, just for having the gall to be out on the roads saving lives during sabbath days. Islam doesn’t have a monopoly on crazy, and some of the weirdos out in the settlements really give mainstream Israelis the creeps.
Now, rather than bothering to touch on any of the very real details of the political, social, and diplomatic issues involving the West Bank at large, or the settlements in particular, or the conflicts between the religious fanatics from both the Jewish settlements and the Palestinian territory, you just bluff and bluster and claim that our diplomats invaded Israel and waved guns at people. Do you have no shame? Or just no brain?
Will you believe the cops when and where you want to and take one stance when it is protesters in the US and Israelis in another??? In some situations I lean toward believing police accounts, and some times I don’t. (On Ferguson I lean towards believing the police, but in the shooting of Tamir Rice I don’t). And sometimes I agree with how police and those working with them handle things, but with Eric Garner I didn’t. But never would I support throwing rocks at our consular officials or at the police in Ferguson. Never would I support either of them, nor give any defense that would support either in any situation, nor try to come up with some instance where it would be acceptable.
Would you say that people in Ferguson can use whatever excuse they want to throw bottles and objects at police, and then turn around and would you turn around and say the opposite here in this situation?