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Apple Valley couple, child dead in apparent murder-suicide (MN)
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 01/18/2015 | Bob Shaw, Kristi Belcamino

Posted on 01/18/2015 7:14:10 PM PST by rabidralph

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To: BeadCounter; rabidralph

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

Comment:

Listening to the police audio at http://www.mnpoliceclips.com/audio-bodies-found-in-apple-valley-home-117.html the part around the 2:35 mark stuck out to me: “rear slider is unlocked, slightly ajar”.


22 posted on 01/19/2015 12:50:30 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Thank you for the note.


23 posted on 01/19/2015 1:07:06 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

This is interesting. Appears their daughter was autistic.

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2014/09/03/a-few-final-thoughts-on-the-half-baked-brains-at-julian-bakery/

Komel Crowley says:
September 5, 2014 at 9:46 am
Tom,

I watched your movie when I was in my first year of graduate school majoring in public health as well as finishing up my internship to become a registered dietitian. It changed my life. I have lost 25 lb, reversed my rheumatoid arthritis, my daughter’s autism and this whole journey started with YOUR movie- none of my education helped me personally.


24 posted on 01/19/2015 1:43:45 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

That is a relevent detail. I hope this is fully investigated.


25 posted on 01/19/2015 2:01:51 AM PST by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: hoosiermama; LucyT; WildHighlander57; thouworm; crosslink

Strange story.

David Crowley is the director and writer of a movie, “Gray State.” Trailers for the film show FEMA agents spying on and killing hundreds of Americans. The tagline for the film is “The Second American Revolution may not be remembered.”

Also see post #22.

Police audio: “rear slider is unlocked, slightly ajar”


26 posted on 01/19/2015 7:33:09 AM PST by maggief
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To: 21twelve

yes, definitely another one that makes me go hmmm


27 posted on 01/19/2015 7:40:11 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: null and void

sad case and very strange


28 posted on 01/19/2015 8:07:13 AM PST by Nifster
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To: BeadCounter

Did they regularly post? If so, then where were they from their lasts posts before Halloween for the two months leading up to Christmas? Where did they have Thanksgiving? Cell phone usage during that time? Utility bills and mortgage payments during that time? According to trulia.com, the house had last sold in Jan. 2014.

Killed his wife and child but didn’t kill the dog? The dog had to have been fed during that time even though it was skinny. Could the dog have lived for 4 weeks since Christmas without food and the only water from the toilets? I don’t think so. Much less since before Halloween. So, where was the dog during all that time?

Were the presents at the stoop legitimate from known friends and post marked or were they dropped there for the neighbors to get curious about? The neighbor went over to check and saw three bodies and a gun. That means the drapes were open and they were laying right there in plain sight. Do people in Minn. leave their drapes open in the middle of winter? And the back door was open. Yeah, I’d say suspicious but not necessarily a conspiracy over a movie trailer.


29 posted on 01/19/2015 11:01:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: rabidralph
This was written Jan 2013.

Is “Gray State” a Psy-Op?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/is-gray-state-psy-op.html

I'd have to agree that trailer had to cost more than $6,000.

His house is rather small too. Didn't either of the them have family? That's a long time before someone checked up on them and it was only a neighbor.

It reminds me of the Muslim video that no one saw. Only the trailer written by some FBI informant to allow Obama to pretend the Benghazi attack was because of a video.

30 posted on 01/19/2015 11:22:51 AM PST by FR_addict (Boehner needs to go!)
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To: bgill

I’m not going to post images, too much cutting and pasting.

It does look like there is a David Crowley in the internet movie data base (IMDB) but I’m not sure if it is the same person. Hair seems similar. I personally think it is the same person but I could be wrong.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4136217/

http://midwestemmys.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/David-Crowley-pic.jpg (the real Crowley)

And from this webpage, looks like in 2012, he was on Infowars.com http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/10/we-are-change-produced-special-david.html

Maybe he did some acting, he seemed to have some source of income to be doing all of this.


I thought about the “dog” angle as well.

I would have thought friends or family might have called them but, it seems they’d go to Hollywood at least once.

I think I will go see if “Infowars.com” has anything on them.

Also, I thought, maybe someone could have cleaned up/scrubbed the entries after the end of October but then, I thought, probably not. Looks like his facebook page changed the wallpaper on November 9th but that is all. No personal entries.

See at: https://www.facebook.com/directordavidcrowley


31 posted on 01/19/2015 11:30:48 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: bgill

Yep, Info Wars is on it, I’m not sure if Info Wars is a welcome webpage here but it is one of their lead stories right now. “Anti-Establishment Movie Director found dead”.


32 posted on 01/19/2015 11:33:21 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: FR_addict

Looks like he was on info-wars in 2012. One can see at that website. Curious stuff.


33 posted on 01/19/2015 11:34:12 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: rabidralph

Linkedin
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-crowley/26/17a/1ab


34 posted on 01/19/2015 12:56:36 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: BeadCounter

It seems she posted on FB more often then he did but with both not posting anything since around Halloween, well, that smells suspicious. His FB wallpaper change to a picture of the heavens (?) is an eyebrow raiser.

I don’t do FB, but where’s the “friends” section? Surely, they had FB friends or I can’t see it because I’m not logged in? I’m going with missing since Halloween so surely friends and family had tried calling them. What about their jobs? Looks like he had sporadic acting jobs but nothing that amounted to providing a living.

Looking at google streetview, their mailbox and newspaper thing is on the street and is housed with a couple of neighbors. Was the mail and newspapers piling up or had service been put on hold? Also, from street view, their house is the junky one on the street so the car was parked in the drive rather than in the cluttered garage. From the picture in today’s article, the car is not in the drive so where is the car? In the garage, or taken by police or picked up by family? If by family, then why the heck wasn’t any of the family worried about not getting to tell the daughter Merry Christmas? Could have been a drug deal or burglary gone wrong but sad how three people not being missed for so long.


35 posted on 01/19/2015 1:11:26 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: BeadCounter

Apple Valley seemed familiar when seeing the headline the first time. Can’t imagine it’s such a huge city that I’d know anything about it. Has it been mentioned on FR before?


36 posted on 01/19/2015 1:13:48 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: bgill
Also, from street view, their house is the junky one on the street so the car was parked in the drive rather than in the cluttered garage. Street view is unreliable. The most recent images in my neighborhood are from 2011. The better, but still outdated, overhead images are better. They update those roughly yearly. An earlier post said the home was sold in early 2014, so the street view may not even be from their ownership.
37 posted on 01/19/2015 2:21:17 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: maggief; BlackVeil

Blackveil,

Thanks for posting this info:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3248261/posts?page=24#24

Maggief,

Above link has interesting info also.


38 posted on 01/19/2015 6:33:45 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: maggief

This part caught my eye:

“... reversed my rheumatoid arthritis, my daughter’s autism ...”

There’s millions of dollars spent on pills, etc. for arthritis, and possibly also research & research on autism...

if she found something effective, would that -plus what her husband researched for his film- be reason to do them in?


39 posted on 01/19/2015 6:41:11 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: Chode

LOL!


40 posted on 01/19/2015 8:02:28 PM PST by rabidralph
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