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Alone and Defenseless: A UK Citizen's call for arms
americanthinker.com ^ | 1/23/2015 | Ciaran Brady

Posted on 01/23/2015 7:29:40 AM PST by rktman

This is where we find ourselves now. Every citizen in Europe and the UK faces the risk of an Islamic attack merely while going about normal day-to-day business. UK citizens in particular face this risk whilst being denied weapons of self defense. In the past I have fully and enthusiastically supported the UK’s complete ban on hand guns. But immediately after the killing of Lee Rigby I began to reconsider the wisdom of that ban and I now utterly oppose it. As things stand in the UK, hand guns are illegal. For those shotguns you could own, extremely strict licensing specifically disallows self defense as a motive for ownership and so the old adage “In countries where guns are illegal, only the criminals have guns” is the frankly mad situation we now have in the UK.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; disarmed; england; guncontrol; guns; islam; murder; muslim; nogunrights; peasants; police; serfs; sharia; slaves; targets; uk
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To: rktman
British subjects armed?

NO WAY!

41 posted on 01/23/2015 8:15:14 AM PST by TYVets
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To: rktman

People “Brick it” at the sight of a AirGun.
They act as if you are carrying a severed head.


42 posted on 01/23/2015 8:15:26 AM PST by moose07 (The Camels have reached the parking lot. Shields up!)
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To: the scotsman

Those privately owned American firearms loaned to Britain in WWII were melted down, and that is somehow BETTER!!?


43 posted on 01/23/2015 8:17:41 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: rktman

Mr. Brady:
Unfortunate last name.
This probably won’t help with your dilemma, but many Americans are armed with better small arms than your soldiers, not only with sidearms but battle rifles and kit. (For that matter, our own soldiers.)
That must be why so many of you Brits who “fully and completely supported the UK’s complete ban” considered us to be yahoo cowboys. Oh well. We see it, once again, differently. Good to see you have come around though.
Cheers,
America’s Minutemen & Hoplites


44 posted on 01/23/2015 8:19:50 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: the scotsman

Good day to you Scotsman. I tried to warn off someone that you would probably weigh in once you saw the post. I seem to remember early on that it was 911 but I may be wrong on that. Of course when I lived in London(’61-’63) you still called folks using a name and number. White Hall 3757. LOL!


45 posted on 01/23/2015 8:20:05 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: the scotsman
Willie The Simpsons photo: Groundskeeper Willie kiltGroundskeeperWillie.jpg It's better to have a gun and not need it than, etc.
46 posted on 01/23/2015 8:24:12 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: moose07

Kinda like New York state and its droves of amazingly dimwitted people who would allow a robot to do the thinking for them as they merrily drive right off a pier and into a river?


47 posted on 01/23/2015 8:46:39 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: the scotsman

Yeesh.


48 posted on 01/23/2015 8:47:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: the scotsman

What I’ve found says they were thrown into the sea.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-651362.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/650257/posts

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=17760

I saw an old movie (A TWIST OF SAND) in which SMLEs are dumped into the ocean.

What a waste if they were! I know that back in the early 1970s several US Coast Guard cutters dumped tens of thousands of handguns confiscated in NYC into the ocean.


49 posted on 01/23/2015 8:49:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TYVets

Citizens. Since 1948.


50 posted on 01/23/2015 8:50:21 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Darksheare

Yep , A similar level of ungh.


51 posted on 01/23/2015 8:51:23 AM PST by moose07 (The Camels have reached the parking lot. Shields up!)
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To: elcid1970

The HG was being disbanded, the guns weren’t suitable for frontline British troops, so the decision was made to melt them down for war production. Remember we needed every scrap of metal we needed, from old guns to metal fences.

I am not saying its right, just passing on the history.


52 posted on 01/23/2015 8:51:58 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My research shows they were melted down. And I have trawled through online pages on UK war production, the Home Guard.


53 posted on 01/23/2015 8:53:00 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: moose07

The zombie apocalypse is real.


54 posted on 01/23/2015 8:55:46 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: moose07

“People “Brick it” at the sight of a AirGun.
They act as if you are carrying a severed head.”

Are there restrictions on air guns? Creative individuals could come up with all kinds of effective air guns, making ones with high rates of fire or increasing the caliber of the round.

A few years ago a Brit and his wife came and stayed in one of our guest cabins. I asked him if he’d like to do some target practice. His eyes lit up and by the end of the day he was grinning ear to ear...


55 posted on 01/23/2015 9:15:48 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: the scotsman

The citizens of the UK are armed with hand guns for personal protection when you are away from your residence since 1948?


56 posted on 01/23/2015 9:16:26 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Darksheare

“I’d have to ask one of our UK posters about the response time for armed bobbies to arrive.”

So what happens when the unarmed bobby “shows up.” The British cops are just like the French, the do not carry firearms (”it’s so unciviilzed doncha know”).


57 posted on 01/23/2015 9:25:24 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Carthego delenda est
Are there restrictions on air guns?

Rifle 12flb, Pistol 6fbl.

Creative individuals could come up with all kinds of effective air guns, making ones with high rates of fire or increasing the caliber of the round.

As long as it doesn't exceed the poundages given above, you can make what you like. :)

Exceed these and, OMG! AN ANTI TANK GUN!!!

58 posted on 01/23/2015 9:29:41 AM PST by moose07 (The Camels have reached the parking lot. Shields up!)
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To: TYVets

LOL

No, the British have been citizens as opposed to subjects since the Nationality Act of 1948, technically 1st Jan 1949.


59 posted on 01/23/2015 9:33:57 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: vette6387

The bobby is armed with a 50000v taser.

And 95% of French police are armed.


60 posted on 01/23/2015 9:34:51 AM PST by the scotsman
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