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Obama Wants to Tax Your Savings...Really
Townhall.com ^ | January 26, 2015 | John Ransom

Posted on 01/26/2015 4:44:53 AM PST by Kaslin

As I have noted previously bond yields continue to go lower, and Investment News reports that it has some bond managers worried that it means that the country will suffer a bout of deflation this year, which mean that the economy, might be, could be, holy cow, a little weaker than expected.

Wow. You don’t say?

Investment News reports that bond yields are a pretty accurate predictor of which way consumer prices will be going. And in this case the yields are saying consumer prices will be going down.

That’s good news for those of us who still buy things every day, like food and gas, but of course it’s the most painful news to Central Bankers.

Why?

Because it means that perhaps the economy isn’t recovering and perhaps they bought all those Treasury notes in the market to stimulate the recovery for no good reason.

Which means of course…wait… that they will likely do more Quantitative Easing.

Watch for the GDP announcement this week on the 30th.

If it’s bad expect QE talk to commence.

Well the moment we all have been waiting for happened.

And no-- not the State of the Union Address.

The US treasury announced that ANYONE--yes, even you-- can now sign up for a free MYIRA account-- as long as you have direct deposit. And you make less than a combined $191,000.

And here’s the really cool part: The government is going to start spending money to advertise the new MYIRA accounts (cough, hack).

No, no-- they don’t offer a tax write off, but you get the same return as the Thrift Savings Plan's Government Securities Investment Fund, which in 2013 paid 2%.

Oh, and you get to sleep well knowing that the money you invest is going to secure more advertising for the government on products like retirement accounts, where we already have so many choices that guys like me can stay employed for years just explaining what they are.

Thanks government again.

Oh, and the SOTU last week?

Yes, they want to raise your taxes again. Where do you think the government will get the 2% to pay investors?

As I predicted last week on Bucket Strategy Investing Pres. Obama has proposed raiding 529 college saving plans-- that is TAXING THEM-- in order to pay for his new “two years of community college free” plan.

That “free” college stuff is expensive.

Hey but it’s free.You can’t put a price on “free” education. Or "free" healthcare. So why try? Just tax people who have money.

That's right those hard-working responsible people who took the energy and resources to save for their own children's education get to double, triple and maybe even quadruple their fun by paying for another child's education. Who knows maybe they even can pay for an adult's education, too?

Why stop there?

Let's text everyone’s retirement account too to pay for a college education for those people who can't get a part-time job to pay for their own college education like I did.

I am ashamed to say that we are ruled by some of the stupidest people on earth.

With the Swiss leaving the euro, Greece about ready to implode, war in the Ukraine and plunging oil prices, an important question has now been answered.

What exactly does it take to stop gold’s “free-fall”?

Gold has been rallying as of late in response to bad news from Europe and bad news from the oil patch.

And that has some gold evangelist saying “See, I told you so.”

Never mind that gold is well off its high still, or that it took them so long to be right. So far.

Gold is a metal, not a strategy.

The World Bank says that falling oil prices will generate 15 to 20% more economic growth worldwide.

And that's more evidence that lower oil prices are better then—duh-- higher prices.

The winner in all this will be India, which is an importer of oil not an exporter of oil. Losers include economies like Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria.

So if you have funds in any of those Emerging Dictator ETFs, may wanna rethink that.

Big winners will also be the United States and the Euro Zone which also rely heavily on petroleum products.

And a new survey of traders and analysts say that eventually OPEC will be forced to cut its oil production in the second half of the year while shale producers in the US keep up output.

So until that time you can even drink gasoline. A gallon gas is still cheaper than a gallon of milk.

Home sales were up for December despite finishing the year down.

Sales of existing homes rose 2.4% last month but overall sales fell 3.1% for 2014. Driving the decline was a lack of first time homebuyers.

Only 29% of sales went to first time homebuyers compared to an historic average of 40%.

One of the great casualties of the Slight Depression, or the Great Recession, has been the slowing of family formation. Lack of jobs amongst younger Americans, slow wage growth and student loan debt are hampering the ability of younger Americans to start families.

The chief economist at Trulia however believes that that pattern will start to reverse itself as Twenty-Somethings, who tend to rent in urban areas, move to the suburbs. Another reason for optimism is falling interest rates.

Lower borrowing costs however are offset by higher home prices right now. And your home price growth right now is 4.5%, a little above the historic average. And—importantly-- higher than inflation.

Good news for existing buyers, not good news for first time buyers.

Well if you're renting there's more bad news too: Rental prices continue to climb in December with cost rising rapidly in places like San Francisco and Denver according to the real estate firm Zillow.

In San Francisco rents jumped 15%, in San Jose 14 1/2%, in Denver 10 1/2% and in Kansas City 8 1/2%.

High rents mean that people who would like to buy a first time home have a difficult time saving to buy a first time home. I spoke on the radio about how first time home purchases are down quite substantially.

There's a lot of pent-up demand, interest rates are low, conditions are right for a housing rebound, but Washington just can't get its act together.

And high rents are just another symptom of a broken housing market. Home prices will not continue to rise if homeownership does not expand. We don’t need government sponsored subprime loans either.

Just let banks loan money again Washington.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: obamataxes; retirementsavings; savings; savingsaccounts
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1 posted on 01/26/2015 4:44:53 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Undocumented EXEMPT Obola steals from everyone
to give to his EXEMPT Congress (owning stock in
ObamaCARE investments) and his
Moslem Brotherhood/alQaeda allies for their genocide.


2 posted on 01/26/2015 4:47:27 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Kaslin

I guess the title should say “Not Really”, since there is no proposal to tax our savings on the table. The 529 proposal isn’t going anywhere. Some day they wiil, I have no doubt, but it won’t be under Obama.


3 posted on 01/26/2015 4:52:50 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Kaslin
No, no-- they don’t offer a tax write off, but you get the same return as the Thrift Savings Plan's Government Securities Investment Fund, which in 2013 paid 2%.

Yepper, and when you make a TSP withdrawal, they automatically withhold the maximum amount so you have to wait until you file to recoup the excess they kept back. I just retired and am in the process of moving my TSP to a vehicle that pays a guaranteed minimum 6% and which also protects the principle 100%. It will also allow me to manage my taxes so I owe them a little bit at the end of the year - no way I want to have them owing me for anything.

4 posted on 01/26/2015 4:53:16 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Kaslin

My friend who is retired military said his retirement is being taxed.


5 posted on 01/26/2015 4:58:50 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kaslin

Not buying this analysis about oil prices and effect of such: “And that’s more evidence that lower oil prices are better then—duh— higher prices. ... Big winners will also be the United States and the Euro Zone which also rely heavily on petroleum products.”

Higher oil prices drove the primary engine of high pay job creation in the US. Economics cuts both ways and the loss of those jobs will hurt, badly.


6 posted on 01/26/2015 4:59:31 AM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: Kaslin

In this upside down, inside out world, being a thrifty saver MAKES YOU A CHUMP FOR THE SYSTEM!!!!


7 posted on 01/26/2015 5:07:07 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Wolfie

” The 529 proposal isn’t going anywhere. “

Nah, they will just blatantly confiscate it from your bank accounts in the dead of night.


8 posted on 01/26/2015 5:08:09 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Kaslin

What savings?


9 posted on 01/26/2015 5:09:34 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: GraceG

Being a thrifty saver could result in someone becoming wealthy.

Mr. Obama really IS simply looking out for our best interests. He’s trying to save us from becoming part of the “evil 1%”.

;-)


10 posted on 01/26/2015 5:12:33 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: SMARTY

Yes, it is - by the Feds.

I’m in NC and under the Bailey Settlement so I don’t have to pay any state tax.


11 posted on 01/26/2015 5:20:52 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570

That’s pretty wild. I don’t get how it can be taxed TWICE


12 posted on 01/26/2015 5:25:03 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kaslin

No doubt. He is a communist. communists want the government to own all assets and property. That’s what communism is.

But he will take them using the time-honored American Way: say you’re not doing it, give it a nice-sounding name, and go on doing what you wanted to do all along.


13 posted on 01/26/2015 5:44:47 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: GraceG

There is a few economic theories that say that saving is not only bad, but a sin.

The theory is you need to take the “savings” and put it into circulation as soon as possible. This helps the economy, forces you to work, and generates revenue for the financial sector.

I first ran into to this idea in a book by Taylor Caldwell that my grandma had. I was rather amused, till I heard it again in my econ classes.


14 posted on 01/26/2015 5:48:58 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: WayneS

I remember those from the before-time, before the wun. A distant memory from a better time.


15 posted on 01/26/2015 5:54:04 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: SMARTY

How can it be taxed twice?

Same question with inheritance taxes.

Because YOU DIDN’T EARN THAT! You aren’t paying your FAIR SHARE!

18 trillion in debt and 60 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

NO politicians can talk about it or they are pushing grandma over a cliff.

The country is BANKRUPT right now. We owe more than we got.

Yet, like Greece, we keep electing socialists.


16 posted on 01/26/2015 5:54:06 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Right, of course.

There is so much tat is so wrong... I keep saying ‘I’m glad I’ll be dead before it gets where it’s going’.

Young people, (younger the me) are in for it. They’re the very people who keep driving this mania.


17 posted on 01/26/2015 6:04:12 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: trebb

I am about to retire and very interested in something that would pay 6%. Annuity? If you are willing would you message me the name of the product to which you are referencing? I would be much obliged. :-)


18 posted on 01/26/2015 6:19:57 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Kaslin

My children’s 529s will be taxed TWICE if this goes through! Every penny put into them was already taxed.


19 posted on 01/26/2015 6:38:02 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: plain talk

Dittos to the above! Thanks!


20 posted on 01/26/2015 6:45:46 AM PST by TropicanaRose
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