I don't know who to believe, the Ukrainian propaganda I first found when reading about Putin's father, or the Wikipedia entry on Vlasov, but it seems that Vlasov might gave been the closest thing to a good guy in the USSR-Nazi conflict, if not purely an opportunist whose opportunities led him to taking a good-guy posture. There's even a memorial to him in New York.
But I'd be interesting in reading how Russia was responsible for killing up to one fourth of all the allied military personnel.
>>>> But the Ukraine had a lot of collaborationist and Nazi wanna-bes.
>> After Russia had just committed the Holodomor genocide against the Ukrainians in which millions of Ukrainians were murdered by the Russians,
Absolutely true. But the problem is that Ukrainian nazi-wanna-bes ai was referring was Swaboda. Their idols were far less interesting in liberating Russia than they were in convincing Hitler that they'd make good little Nazis by killing all the Poles and Jews they could get their hands on. THey were formed in the 1990s as the Socialist-Nationalist Party.
“I don’t know who to believe, the Ukrainian propaganda I first found when reading about Putin’s father, or the Wikipedia entry on Vlasov, but it seems that Vlasov might gave been the closest thing to a good guy in the USSR-Nazi conflict, if not purely an opportunist whose opportunities led him to taking a good-guy posture.”
The source is a Russian, Viktor Suvorov (Vladimir Rezun), who is a former GRU officer who defected to the British in 1978. He wrote how he found the information about Putin’s father defecting to NAZI Germany in 1941 from the Soviet NKVD in the British intelligence files and photograph/s while researching one of his publications. The Ukrainians, Byelorussians, and assorted other people have only cited his works. So, you cannot blame the reports, whether they are valid or invalid, upon the Ukrainians in an effort to smear them. If anything should ever prove to be incorrect about the report the responsibility goes back to Viktor Suvorov (Vladimir Rezun), a former Russian GRU agent.
“There’s even a memorial to him in New York.”
Hitler did not want to allow the formation and employment of a Russian liberation army and took action to deny Vlasov any effective capability of doing so until events in 1944 allowed some minimal combat participation by Vlasov and his own units. The Vlasov memorial in the United States is a religious and private marker erected by Russian expatriates.
Hitler and Germany did employ some of Vlasov’s followers in a variety of capacities, including the NAZI led killing of the Poles, Jews, and others. The Viktor Suvorov (Vladimir Rezun) publication/s report Putin’s father is one of the officers serving the Germans as they destroyed the Warsaw Ghetto and massacred the people therein.
“But I’d be interesting in reading how Russia was responsible for killing up to one fourth of all the allied military personnel.”
When the Western Allies could no longer stomach the way Stalin and his Soviets were murdering thousands of the Soviet POWs and other people upon their debarkation from the Allied ships repatriating them to the Crimean and other ports, Stalin refused to repatriate the British Commonwealth and American troops who had been captured in the German POW camps. Instead, Stalin either immediately killed them or killed them while being used as slave labor in the Gulag Archipelago. It is noteworthy that many of the Soviet lives which were spared by the refusal of the British and Americans to forcibly repatriate Soviet POWs who would then be murdered as they got off the ships included a large number of Soviet Ukrainians. Many of these Soviet POWs committed mass suicide in the West when it appeared they could not persuade the British not forcibly repatriate them to the Soviets.
The United States suffered something on the order of 291,000 military deaths in WWII, and the Soviet Union (Russia) may have been responsible for something on the order of 25,000 of those deaths. The British Commonwealth forces may have lost as many as around 36,000 POWs to the Soviet enslavement and deaths.
“Absolutely true. But the problem is that Ukrainian nazi-wanna-bes ai was referring was Swaboda. Their idols were far less interesting in liberating Russia than they were in convincing Hitler that they’d make good little Nazis by killing all the Poles and Jews they could get their hands on. THey were formed in the 1990s as the Socialist-Nationalist Party.”
Russian propagandists have been doing everything in their power to distract attention away from the Russian crimes and Russian neo-NAZIism which far outnumber and commit far more atrocities than anything that can be found in the Ukraine. So, the constant smearing of the Ukrainian people and government for the existence of neo-NAZIs in the Ukraine is a hypocritical scheme being used to massacre even more Ukrainians and steal their land, freedom, and assets. Small numbers of neo-NAZIs can be found in a wide variety of nations around the world, but few of them can compare in numbers or ongoing atrocities to those in today’s Russia and today’s Russian Government. The Ukraine’s neo-NAZIs are a problem, but they are a tiny problem when compared to the Russian neo-NAZIs, who comprise something on the order of half the entire world’s total neo-NAZIs, and are actively being unleashed to overthrow the Russian government and kill Ukrainians, Jews, and a wide assortment of other people today. This is also why the report about Putin’s father serving Hitler’s NAZI Germany in the eradication of the Warsaw Ghetto is so alarming to so many people in Eastern Europe and around the world.