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Huntington Beach (CA) repeals plastic bag ban
KPCC ^ | 04/21/15 | Erika Aguilar

Posted on 04/24/2015 9:12:59 AM PDT by fifedom

After six minutes of discussion, the Huntington Beach City Council voted 6 to 1 on Monday night to allow stores to use plastic carryout bags, taking a step toward reversing a ban that was enacted in 2013.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; electionsmatter; environazis; huntingtonbeach; plastic; plasticbag; plasticbags; treehuggers
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To: Bob

They did this in San Jose too.
Lucky stores had a store across the street from a Safeway that was in another town(across the street was Campbell I think).
Safeway could provide bags and Luckys could not.
Business at that store dropped so much it was no longer profitable.
Thanks Nanny government!


21 posted on 04/24/2015 10:07:47 AM PDT by glasseye
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22 posted on 04/24/2015 10:09:56 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: rey

If the statewide ban is overturned it may not have an effect on any local bans, as I understand the initiative.

**So, locals will still have the ban even if ballot is approved?


23 posted on 04/24/2015 10:11:34 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: mrsmel

I lived in Paris in the late 60’s. There was NO refrigerator in the apartment. There was there beautiful cement box outside the kitchen window. That’s where perishables were stored... for two or three days max.

Shopping daily was a necessity. There were also guys selling fruits and veggies in their horse drawn carts.

No chance that could happen in the USA nowadays. The feminists would have to stay home.


24 posted on 04/24/2015 10:17:37 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: rainee

If the local law came into effect first, yes. My understanding.


25 posted on 04/24/2015 10:17:43 AM PDT by rey
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Oh, our leftist self-appointed elites always seem to manage to find a way to foist their social engineering on us, while escaping the consequences themselves. Just look at the politicians and the faithful spokesmen of the Church Of The Global Warming jetting around on “Earth Day”.


26 posted on 04/24/2015 10:19:48 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Sorry if I’m pointing out the obvious, but doesn’t it take more energy and use more natural resources to wash out disposable plastic bags? I also reuse grocery bags for various purposes around the house, such as lining garbage baskets. Whenever I take my own bags to Whole Foods, they often “conveniently” forget to give me my 5 cents credit for each bag that I brought in. Then if you point it out to them, they “conveniently” ask you if you want to donate the money to one of their chosen charities.


27 posted on 04/24/2015 10:22:43 AM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They will be satisfied when your ration card limits you to a handful of turnips and 3 ounces of powdered milk.


28 posted on 04/24/2015 10:44:32 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: MeshugeMikey

We can only continue to pray that this is so.


29 posted on 04/24/2015 10:46:48 AM PDT by JustAmy (Take a Cruz from Texas to DC!)
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To: toothfairy86

Exactly! & CA in man made drought, can we really afford extra water to wash the bags?


30 posted on 04/24/2015 10:47:49 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Well Put!

whenever I get too dar away from the hills..mountains..and ocean. I get hinky or Id have been out of here years ago!

Those first few days after the attacks on our Soil On.... September 11 2001...I thought there might be hope for this state...


31 posted on 04/24/2015 10:48:46 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I save the bags. When we go to the coast, I take two or three with us. Drive the liberals nuts.


32 posted on 04/24/2015 10:49:04 AM PDT by JustAmy (Take a Cruz from Texas to DC!)
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To: JustAmy

Thats the spirit!!


33 posted on 04/24/2015 10:49:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Bob

Except those “reusable” bags are now made so thinly that they are full of holes by the time you get them home so they aren’t reusable anymore. I have to go through about 30 before finding one that will hold kitty litter and have given up on using them as waste basket liners.


34 posted on 04/24/2015 11:15:39 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Bob

“In response to a local bag ban in Morgan Hill, CA, one local store had their plastic bags printed with the word “Reusable” prominently displayed on them. Since the ordinance only prohibited “single-use” bags, it didn’t affect their use of them. :=)”

I’ve had the same idea and today, the Phila city council wants to have stores charge shoppers 5 cents per “single use” bag, with the city getting 2 out of the 5. My claim would be that both plastic & paper are used in my household: mainly as liners for trash receptables & recycle bins.


35 posted on 04/24/2015 11:30:56 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: fifedom

As one American old enough to remember the weekly public health hazard that was Trash Day before the advent of plastic bags, I second the motion.


36 posted on 04/24/2015 11:46:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fifedom

Wonder what happened there? The ban must’ve been seriously hurting somebody’s bottom line...


37 posted on 04/24/2015 11:47:24 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm Ready for Teddy!)
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To: uncitizen

Wonder what happened there? The ban must’ve been seriously hurting somebody’s bottom line...


If you bothered to read the original post, the guy who led the fight was elected on a platform to repeal it. The voters were not all paid off by the plastic bag manufacturers.

Living in a city with one of these bans is a royal PITA. As I mentioned, I ended up buying some bags from Amazon because they are so useful. Other people not as cheap as me buy the thicker trash bags from the grocery, which generate even more profits for the industry.

The bans are supported by the grocery stores since they do not have to provide the bags.


38 posted on 04/24/2015 2:01:55 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Since those plastic bags are not biodegradable,


That line put out by the environazis is not true. Have you ever left one of the bags in the sun? They soon break down and fall apart. Do you recall the hysteria over the oil spill from the platform in the Gulf of Mexico? Go back there today and it is like nothing happened. Oil has been seeping into the ocean for millennia and bacteria have evolved that can eat the oil. There was actually a bloom of these bacteria with the extra source of food. Similar for the bags, which are made from oil.


39 posted on 04/24/2015 2:07:59 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: fifedom

LOL, I know that they are biodegradable. They should come with an expiration date. Bags stored indoors from two years ago have become very brittle.

In fact I find this war on “single use” grocery bags racist. They’re picking on the wrong bag.

The black garbage bags are single use and they last forever. I have leaves bagged in them from five years ago. They’re composting nicely. The bags are still strong.


40 posted on 04/24/2015 3:08:16 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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