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Ted Cruz, the only Republican arrogant enough to be president
PJ Media's Spengler ^ | May 16, 2015 | David P. Goldman

Posted on 05/16/2015 10:20:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here, I’ll answer my own question:

CRUZ: I think we stayed too long and we got far too involved in nation-building. It is not our job to turn foreign nations into — we shouldn’t be trying to turn Iraq into Switzerland. What we should be doing if there are people who pose a clear and present danger to our national security, and I believe ISIS qualifies as that, then the objective should be taking out that threat.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/24/cruz_on_iraq_we_stayed_too_long_and_got_far_too_involved_in_nation-building.html

Precious little to go on there. Kind of a throw-away line. And BTW, this bit — “What we should be doing if there are people who pose a clear and present danger to our national security, and I believe ISIS qualifies as that, then the objective should be taking out that threat” — that’s exactly what George W Bush thought he was doing, taking out a clear-and-present-danger threat.

I like Ted Cruz, but this article goes way too far in calling him a foreign policy genius. Sounds to me like he’s groping for solutions in a very tough world, just like many other highly patriotic Americans (which Cruz is one of) are doing.

As for Reagan, he wasn’t just a genius, he had HUGE qualifications in 1980, qualifications that aren’t matched by any candidate today in any party. That’s just a fact, and not a criticism of Cruz.


21 posted on 05/16/2015 10:56:17 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: sickoflibs

Be honest. Walker has been all over the map with immigration and other larger than the state issues.


22 posted on 05/16/2015 10:57:22 PM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RE:”How so? Are you of the mind that Scott Walker is head and shoulders a better candidate for president than Ted Cruz?”

Did I post that on this silly thread??

The author was saying the complete opposite.

He is ruling out Walker and claiming Cruz has some great executive experience heads up over Walker with his long <2+1/2 years of Senate experience. .

He made a stupid argument.

23 posted on 05/16/2015 10:57:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes me want him all the more. Decent article.


24 posted on 05/16/2015 10:57:59 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: DB
RE:”Be honest. Walker has been all over the map with immigration and other larger than the state issues.”

Be honest, this thread's author's argument is doo-doo.

25 posted on 05/16/2015 10:59:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz is a man who knows who he is and knows where he’s going. He wants America’s proper role in the world restored. Mr. Cruz understands we must once again be the land of the free; home of the brave. This is arrogance?

What would David Goldman have as Ted Cruz to be - ‘humble’ like Jimmy Carter?

I notice that Alan Dershowitz says that Mr. Cruz was the best student he had ever had at Harvard’s Law School. Just wondering - what did the faculty think of the current POTUS and FLOTUS, who supposedly attended?


26 posted on 05/16/2015 11:01:05 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: sickoflibs

Ted Cruz does have executive and leadership experience. Should we list it again?


27 posted on 05/16/2015 11:01:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having convictions is not the same as being arrogant. Reagan’s beliefs were in free markets, freedom, less government, transferring power to people and not government agencies, and a foreign policy that reinvigorated containment of communism. Those were not arrogant assumptions; they were the ideals the West had strayed from since the rise of War Socialism and the Welfare State. To those who were of the opposite conviction Reagan might indeed seem arrogant, but not to those who understand the principles underpinning his values.


28 posted on 05/16/2015 11:02:01 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We destroyed the century-long balance of power in Iraq and Syria by forcing majority rule in Iraq, and stood godfather to a perpetual Sunni-Shi’ite civil war.

Yes to the first, no to the second - really, the Sunni-Shi'ite civil war is a thousand years and more older than the United States. It would be arrogance indeed to claim a dominant piece of that toxic lineage.

Intelligence alone - and Cruz has it in spades - is insufficient to formulate a coherent policy in this most chaotic environment in, perhaps, the world. A good deal of dispassionate learning that 0bama, despite the time he's been given, has never deigned to explore will make the difference. Here the Hippocratic "first, do no harm" may well be in order.

One cannot fault Bush or what have been grossly oversimplified as "the neocons" for coming up with a grand Wilsonian plan to democratize this septic pit of longstanding hatred: despite the narrative, Bush's was essentially a reactive policy and nation-building an afterthought. It came closer to success than I ever thought that it would. But it wasn't really a part of any overarching plan, and what we now have before us is an indication that the plan, had it even ever solidified, would have failed in any case.

That does not excuse the absolute horror 0bama's malign neglect has made out of what was at best a fragile stasis, but a stasis nonetheless. What we have in ISIS and the Iranian proxies is no more than a continuation of what began with a fellow named Ali starting in the year 632. Lest we consider this an even fight, we must remember that the Shi'ites are, at best, a significant minority of the overall Muslim worldwide population, punching well out of their weight class by virtue of state level support from Iran. The Sunni as a minority control over a Shi'ite population in Iraq is a bit of an anomaly, based more on the Arab/Persian ethnic struggle than religion per se. But it's there, and if ISIS seems disproportionately powerful in all this it is, in fact, a well-funded tribal reaction to Shi'ite/Persian hegemony in a Sunni/Arab land.

In short, it's a mess, and our involvement should probably focus more on keeping Russia, China, and other interested parties from undue influence than trying to re-establish what seems, in retrospect, undue influence of our own. We're done with that, we got what we wanted (stability in the international oil economy) and if we're going to involve ourselves further it would be very nice to consider before we commit what the hell we're really after.

29 posted on 05/16/2015 11:02:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: samtheman

I support the fight to penetrate into the heart of the Muslim world.

But I will wait for the nuances of Cruz to unfold during the next year.

Cruz is sharp as a whip, and he knows to not engage in arguments about every action and decision that is in the past, and not his own.

Don’t let them drag you down into eternal arguments about the past.


30 posted on 05/16/2015 11:04:00 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RE:”Ted Cruz does have executive and leadership experience. Should we list it again?”

You mean the highlight of his 2+1/2 years being that failed two week government shutdown in 2013?

I remember his ‘don't blink’ commercials run on FNC and even MSNBC claiming a shutdown would make Obama blink and repeal Obamacare.

Reagan like Walker had a record of BEATING Dems, not losing every fight with them.

31 posted on 05/16/2015 11:08:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: ansel12

Perhaps you’re right about not getting too bogged down in past decisions of Bush, though it’s certainly appropriate for Republican contenders to get into past decisions of Obama, especially his decision to turn victory into defeat in Iraq (though maybe even that is dangerous territory, I’ll grant you, since no one wants to be perceived as advocating another big incursion into Iraq).

But to be fair, we are commenting here on an article and the article itself brought up the point.

It also brings up the comparison between Cruz and Reagan. I just don’t think it’s a good comparison. Reagan was governor of California and a key player in national politics going back at least 20 years before he became president in 1980.


32 posted on 05/16/2015 11:09:56 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: sickoflibs

Nice Democratic talking points, dude. You should write for Rachel Maddow or Joe Biden...


33 posted on 05/16/2015 11:10:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: sickoflibs

I would compare Cruz’s conservatism to Reagan’s.

Walker is darn good in many ways, but he is not the Reagan like figure of Ted Cruz.


34 posted on 05/16/2015 11:11:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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RE:”Nice Democratic talking points, dude. You should write for Rachel Maddow or Joe Biden..”

LOL, I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

Walker shows how to lead photo walker braveheart3_zpscwfbhjm7.jpg

35 posted on 05/16/2015 11:13:23 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: samtheman

Who compares to Reagan?

Well, in my mind, Palin and Cruz do.

Only one of them was a Governor, but my interest is in their essence, who they are in their hearts and how they apply their incredible personalities and political skills, and what they desire for our nation and humanity.


36 posted on 05/16/2015 11:17:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: sickoflibs

Oh my Lord! Braveheart? That’s almost as bad as a certain lady here who seems to think that Scott Walker was born either in a manger or a log cabin. What was her name again?


37 posted on 05/16/2015 11:17:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn!

LOL


38 posted on 05/16/2015 11:18:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Sen. Cruz is the only candidate I who is tough, smart and arrogant enough to do the job. "

He's the only one that I want as my President.

39 posted on 05/16/2015 11:19:28 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God bless and protect Pamela Geller.)
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RE:”Oh my Lord! Braveheart? That’s almost as bad as a certain lady here who seems to think that Scott Walker was born either in a manger or a log cabin. What was her name again?”

You are a character, is the moon full or something similar?

40 posted on 05/16/2015 11:22:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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