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Iraq Struggles to Revive Military for Coming Battles With Islamic State
The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 7, 2015 | NOUR MALAS and GHASSAN ADNAN

Posted on 06/07/2015 8:16:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

BESMAYA BASE, Iraq—Sgt. Abbas Adwani is helping to train a brigade of fellow soldiers for what promises to be one of the toughest battles yet against Islamic State: an offensive on the city of Mosul—the extremist group’s stronghold in Iraq.

But he and many of his trainees say they still can’t shake the bitter aftertaste of previous fights—some in northern Mosul a year ago, others in Anbar province, where they said they were left without ammunition or altogether abandoned by their commanders.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; iran; iraq; iraqiarmy; lebanon; syria; yemen

1 posted on 06/07/2015 8:16:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Like the South Vietnamese, they were abandoned by the United States as well.
2 posted on 06/07/2015 8:36:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MinorityRepublican

An army that runs away from battle will do it again and again. It’s over and most at DOD know it.


3 posted on 06/07/2015 8:55:48 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: Crystal Palace East

it disgusts me that so much american blood was shed there for people who did not appreciate it... and we never went after the iranians who were behind much of the bloodshed caused by the “insurgency”. i’m so tired of all of this nation building nonsense that causes us to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


4 posted on 06/07/2015 9:02:12 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: TangibleDisgust

Well said.


5 posted on 06/07/2015 9:08:50 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: TangibleDisgust

Thats what happens when you elect lesser evil. Every time it’s tried. History proves it. We need to stop making excuses and learn that.


6 posted on 06/07/2015 9:15:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Crystal Palace East

Iraq is not even Iraq any more. It is effectively fractured into three countries, or provincial regions. Kurdistan to the north, a satellite state of Iran to the east, and what is essentially part of the Islamic State comprising most of Anbar province, to the west. There is no national unity fighting FOR Iraq any longer. Lesser ethnic minorities or tribal affiliations are essentially on their own, and have no protectorate or security umbrella under which they may be shielded.

Should the US re-invade Iraq? There is no longer a Saddam Hussein that maintained at least a facade of a national regime, and most of the factions in Iraq has little or no interest in receiving direct military support from the US, proven to be a most unreliable partner, and subject to withdrawal at any moment, on a whim or on the least whiff of political incorrectness.

“Stay the course” is an attitude long since abandoned.


7 posted on 06/07/2015 9:22:43 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: alloysteel

In many ways, there never was what we would call a “country” in describing Iraq.

The borders follow no natural demarcation. There is no language that separates Iraqis from many of their neighbors, nor is there one national unifying language, race, etc.

In reality, it’s simply lines Lord Balfour drew on a map in the 20s.

To the locals, first loyalty is to their tribe, then their family. Next loyalty level of loyalty is to their village Next is to their sect. Then comes Islam.

Last is the concept of “country.” Literally the only thing less important than “country” is the concept of “truth!”


8 posted on 06/07/2015 9:47:48 PM PDT by Crystal Palace East (90% of MSM is lies, except the National Enquirer, of course :))
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s a good idea. They should regroup and fight again and again.


9 posted on 06/07/2015 10:38:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
So where are big, bad Eyeran and Russia?

Syrian army defunct, rebels 100 yards from Israel border, senior officer says
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3297729/posts

Russia and Iran: Bashar al Assad’s Life Support


10 posted on 06/07/2015 10:44:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: TangibleDisgust
After Saddam was gone, we should have destroyed the Iranian mullahcracy. And then come home.

11 posted on 06/08/2015 5:25:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: familyop

Its too late—and what we are doing is too little. Baghdad will fall and be the new Capital of IS. A bloodbath will follow—it will be like Berlin 1945. What will Obama do when IS marches south to Kuwait? To Iran? to Saudi Arabia?


12 posted on 06/08/2015 9:55:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
"What will Obama do when IS marches south to Kuwait? To Iran? to Saudi Arabia?"

If that happens, he'll watch oil prices go up.


13 posted on 06/08/2015 4:20:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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