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Pope's Flock May Not Heed 'Climate Change' Concerns
News Max ^ | 6/8/2015 | Bill Hoffman

Posted on 06/09/2015 6:58:33 AM PDT by HomerBohn

Pope Francis's concerns about global warming and climate change are outside his expertise and may not be taken seriously by practicing Catholics, says Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

"I don't care whether it's Pope Francis or his predecessors or his successors someday. Once you get outside the domain, of faith and morals, be careful and be careful particularly when you get into the weeds and get very specific," Donohue said Monday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

(Watch video at link.)

"For example, are we God's stewards? Are we supposed to take care of the Earth? Of course, that's out of the Old Testament, it's out of the New Testament, it's totally unobjectionable.

"Now we might get a little bit more specific, but the more specific you become on something like this, well what happens is Catholics will scratch their head and say, well he's a very nice man."

Francis is expected to release an encyclical — a teaching document — warning about the dangers of climate change and how mankind must pay attention to it by the end of June.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: badpope; francisthemule; globalwarminghoax; newcatholicchurch; popefrancis; romancatholicism; secularhumanists
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The business of the new catholic religion is more about joining the rabid left and forget what Christ admonished Peter to do with His church on earth.

Francis, the talking mlule, now is foaming at the mouth over his new Eco-mania. He is joining the abortionists and the other Godless leftist crazies in a made dash to save the 'planet' from gorebal warming and those who call it junk science.

His recent statement begins thusly:

"Unsustainable consumption coupled with a record human population and the use of inappropriate technologies are casually linked with the destruction of the world's sustainability and resilience."

Like everything he's said since becoming pope, this makes little sense to adults with functioning brains.

No thinking scientists are being invited to attend the pope's little symposium on the ridiculous theory of the earth warming. As a matter of fact there's been no recorded warming over the past eighteen years.

Francis, like Obama, is a man with a devilishly evil mission as did his predecessors. Our last pope was Pius Xii.

1 posted on 06/09/2015 6:58:33 AM PDT by HomerBohn
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To: HomerBohn

His soul was formed and anointed by God, no question; but his mind was educated and shaped and conditioned in South America where liberal thought abounds and “liberation theology” flourished - no question.


2 posted on 06/09/2015 7:04:32 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: HomerBohn

We WILL NOT!

There is no Manmade Climate Change.


3 posted on 06/09/2015 7:04:41 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: HomerBohn

What’s the Pope’s opinion....stick-shift or automatic? What’s the Pope’s opinion on lawn fertilizer? What’s the Pope’s opinion over bar-b-q sauce? What’s the Pope’s opinion over best poker hands to hold? What’s the Pope’s opinion over best Star Trek series? What’s the Pope’s opinion over women who don’t shave underarm hair?

One of the significant criticisms of Islam are the three ‘big’ books where Muhammad dishes advice bit after advice bit....over dogs, art, washing your feet, and ten thousand other things that some religious guy really doesn’t need to think much about or worry himself over. I kinda get the impression that Pope is heading toward the same insignificance as Muhammad.

I would kinda advise the Pope to consider his core values and responsibilities....and just stick with them. Don’t try to take on more work than you can handle.


4 posted on 06/09/2015 7:07:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: HomerBohn

Helping a thieving government steal money from its population really isn’t something that the church should be up to.


5 posted on 06/09/2015 7:11:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without God there would be no science.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Especially when the theft is built on a lie.


6 posted on 06/09/2015 7:20:38 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: HomerBohn

“Unsustainable consumption coupled with a record human population and the use of inappropriate technologies are casually linked with the destruction of the world’s sustainability and resilience.”

At least he said “casually”, that’s far from certainty which is the standard for his upcoming release.

My Catholic upbringing taught me the birth of a child is a gift from God and an opportunity for all. I don’t believe that population growth is some kind of plague on the earth.

The new life might be the next Einstein.

More births are more and more opportunities for all.


7 posted on 06/09/2015 7:25:12 AM PDT by dila813
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To: HomerBohn

The majority of Catholics are already a part of the left, we see that in the vote, they vote for the democrat party agenda, which includes the climate politics.


8 posted on 06/09/2015 7:25:18 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

It really hurts to say this, but the ‘mainstream’ Catholic Church is on a one way rapid rail trip to hell!

This evil pope now sides with abortionists, homosexuals, big government and eradication of a portion of the world’s population.

I thank God for the sedevacantists, of which I am happy to be part of!

Avoid the mainstream Catholic Church like the plague it has become.

Jesus wept!


9 posted on 06/09/2015 7:40:28 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: dila813

What a shame for true non-cafeteria line Catholics throughout the world. Francis gives hope only to Christ’s enemies and to the Muslims.


10 posted on 06/09/2015 7:42:13 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: pepsionice

This is no pope at all.

Peter’s throne has been empty since the death of Pope Pius XII.


11 posted on 06/09/2015 7:44:02 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: elpadre

This phony pope has picked up where his predecessors left off. They were on the road to this shortly after the death of Pius XII.


12 posted on 06/09/2015 7:45:23 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: HomerBohn
Pope Francis's concerns about global warming and climate change are outside his expertise and may not be taken seriously by practicing Catholics, says Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights. "I don't care whether it's Pope Francis or his predecessors or his successors someday. Once you get outside the domain, of faith and morals, be careful and be careful particularly when you get into the weeds and get very specific," Donohue said Monday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

So Bill Donohue thinks the Pope is getting into the weeds?

13 posted on 06/09/2015 7:51:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s much worse than merely getting into the weeds.

This phony pope gets to pull the rope and ring the bell for the death knell for the Roman Catholic Church.


14 posted on 06/09/2015 8:04:51 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: HomerBohn; elpadre; G Larry; pepsionice; FlingWingFlyer; Army Air Corps; dila813; Alex Murphy
Homer, the quote you referenced that begins with the words "Unsustainable consumption coupled with a record human population..." is not from Pope Francis. It is from "Climate Change and the Common Good," a statement from two Vatican advisory boards not composed of exclusively Catholics OR scientists, and which have zero - 0 - magisterial authority.

I hope we will all be careful not to attribute to the Pope statements made by people who have no ecclesial authority.

Keep in mind that back in 1968, a "Papal Advisory Board" came out in favor of contraception. And what was the papal response? Pope Paul VI rejected their conclusions and came out re-affirming the traditional Catholic moral objection to contraception in his encyclical "Humanae Vitae."

In contrast with the "advisors'" views, here's something that quotes Pope Francis himself:

The Spectator on the Global Left 'Misrepresenting' the Pope

The Heartland Institute last week paid for a translation of the papal text itself and found the pontiff comes off as rather reasonable on the matter of the environmental encyclical, saying there is a limit to what we currently know about climate change and that the Church’s duty is to speak only what is true, not to hypothesize on matters of science. These are positions with which climate skeptics fully agree, and which the UN and U.S. alarmists ordinarily consider anathema.

“An encyclical, which must be magisterial, must proceed only on the basis of certainties, on things that are certain,” said the pope (Note direct papal quote.)

His Holiness also said the draft of the document he received from his aides contained much that was uncertain and had to be edited out of the final text of the encyclical. Specifically, the encyclical might mention a hypothesis for informational purposes in footnotes, but unproven claims would not be put in the body of the document, he said. This is because the encyclical is “doctrinal and must be certain,” Francis said (Note direct papal quote)

That sort of careful thinking is the opposite of what the global left has triumphantly been attributing to Francis on this issue.

This can also be found in a previously posted Free Republic article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3298015/posts

It's important to distinguish between what the Pope said, and what the Left said he said. Anyone who does that is joining the Left in their disinformation campaign.

15 posted on 06/09/2015 8:17:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God - Blessed be His Holy Name - Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Vatican staffers wrote those words and they knew full well that this secular humanist ‘pope’ would eat it up!

I’ve read all you wrote and know full well that this began about the time of the evil Vatican II. Those popes following Pius XII carried the ball all the way up to Francis....who himself is an eager NWO type.


16 posted on 06/09/2015 8:44:07 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: HomerBohn

You consider Pius XII the last real pope, right?


17 posted on 06/09/2015 8:46:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God - Blessed be His Holy Name - Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes. All that followed were establishing a new secular-humanist religion and that is what we have today.

Can you remember whenever you were in a foreign country on Sunday and went into the local Catholic Church and understood everything liturgical?

Pope Leo V codified for all time the Tridentine Mass which meant that there could be no tinkering with it.

What we have today is a ‘liturgy’ that is shameful to the extreme and an insult to God.

More importantly, today’s church has at its head an invalid pope and invalid church hierarchy that’s willing to join the atheists, abortionists and homosexuals in dishing up a New World Order.


18 posted on 06/09/2015 9:08:26 AM PDT by HomerBohn (When did it change from "We the people" to "screw the people" ?)
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To: HomerBohn
Since, according to you, the last pope died in 1958, and every bishop and cardinal in the Catholic Church was consecrated after 1958 by Pius XII's invalid successors, wouldn't that led us to the conclusion that there are now no valid bishops?

Or am I missing something here?

19 posted on 06/09/2015 9:21:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God - Blessed be His Holy Name - Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.)
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To: HomerBohn

Homer - you are too critical. This is my opinion. You can have yours and I will have mine.

We have been blessed with extraordinary pontiffs in the 20th century. The last two were exceptional men and leaders.

As for Pope Francis, I think he is right on with his concern for the poor; but his venturing into random liberal lecturing is outside his expertise, and he would be better to not indulge himself in these climate matters.

He is also careless with his speech about personal behavior. I do not believe his talks regarding family size and/or economics is truly acceptable Catholic dogma. He is confusing lots of folks with generalities. I do wish he would refrain from such concerns until he refines his manner of speaking.

This is just my own personal opinion.


20 posted on 06/09/2015 10:03:54 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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