[Jan_Sobieski]

Psalms 85:11 Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.

[GunRunner]

Lol! Cue pic of Jesus riding a dinosaur.

[Fester Chugabrew]

“If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.”

[familyop]

Ping.

[dadfly]

Amen.

[DoughtyOne]

The 4.5 billion year figure on the age of the Earth they’ve been bantering on about just didn’t seem right to me. I have no way of actually knowing, but it seemed to me that at some point there could very easily be a retraction of that figure, in favor of one much shorter.

Well there be a shorter age determination? I’m not sure about it. My gut says yes. We all know what that’s worth.

LOL

[Bringbackthedraft]

I can picture Noah on deck; “I think we’re going to need a bigger Ark.”

[gdani]

Support for a Young Earth?

Not in the least.

[tacticalogic]

The researchers were stunned when they discovered what appeared to be red blood cells in one of the specimens. Upon closer examination, the British scientists identified an internal structure within the dinosaur cells, complete with nuclei and amino acids.

If I remember my HS Biology correctly, red blood cells do not have nuclei.

[StoneWall Brigade]

Ping

[roamer_1]

Because dragons are myths, of course....

[teppe]

Why do so many Christians get stuck on the idea that a “day” in the Genesis story is one revolution of the earth during annual orbit around the sun, or 24 hours?

According to the story, the first day of creation doesn’t even have the earth revolving between night and day at all!

Hence, it is obvious to me at least that the term “day” was used as a symbolism for one phase following another.

The genesis story wasn’t originally given to educated people. I believe that God used symbolism that was simple for them to understand.

[JimSEA]

Here's an article by the original discover and others (Mary Higby Schweitzer, Jennifer L Wittmeyer, and John R Horner). Soft Tissue And Cellular Preservation. gives an explanation of soft tissue preservation. More recent explanatory articles Include Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained

"The obvious question, though, was how soft, pliable tissue could survive for millions of years. In a new study published today (Nov. 26) in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, Schweitzer thinks she has the answer: Iron. Iron lady Iron is an element present in abundance in the body, particularly in the blood, where it is part of the protein that carries oxygen from the lungs to the tissues. Iron is also highly reactive with other molecules, so the body keeps it locked up tight, bound to molecules that prevent it from wreaking havoc on the tissues. After death, though, iron is let free from its cage. It forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules thought to be involved in aging. "The free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots," Schweitzer said. "They basically act like formaldehyde." Formaldehyde, of course, preserves tissue. It works by linking up, or cross-linking, the amino acids that make up proteins, which makes those proteins more resistant to decay. Schweitzer and her colleagues found that dinosaur soft tissue is closely associated with iron nanoparticles in both the T. rex and another soft-tissue specimen from Brachylophosaurus canadensis, a type of duck-billed dinosaur. They then tested the iron-as-preservative idea using modern ostrich blood vessels. They soaked one group of blood vessels in iron-rich liquid made of red blood cells and another group in water. The blood vessels left in water turned into a disgusting mess within days. The blood vessels soaked in red blood cells remain recognizable after sitting at room temperature for two years. [Paleo-Art: Illustrations Bring Dinosaurs to Life]"

The idea that this preservation is not unknown in other fossils gives us the tantalizing that DNA might be extracted. There is nothing here that contradicts the age of the fossils. Isotope decay rates are consistent and do give us the age of rocks.

[mountainlion]

It amazed me how people create a whole “scientific fact” out of one minor point like the race of Nebraska man.

[jagusafr]

“It has long been accepted...”

Yeah....long list of these “truths” that need to be examined as well.

[fishtank]

Thanks for the post!

[jonno]

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[tacticalogic]

Considering that this was done under an electron microscope, how do they know that what they’re seeing is really cell tissue, and not just a molecular pattern left over from remnants of something that used to be cell tissue?

[hecticskeptic]

If God can just speak and something comes into existence, he can do it in a 24 hour period just as easily as a 24 billion year period. However, for the record, the word yôm is used in Genesis 1 and although it typically means a 24 hour period, it can have other interpretations as well. The reason why Bible scholars believe it means 24 hours in Genesis 1 is that elsewhere in the Bible, whenever yôm is used with a number, it means a twenty-four-hour period. Note as well that in Genesis 1, it very clearly states that for each day of creation, night followed the day…. the word day does therefore not have have an interpretation of an epoch of some sort….otherwise, there would be no need to mention the night.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. Look closely at the description of these beasts of the earth...

Job 40: 15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. 18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. 19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. 20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. 21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. 22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. 23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. 24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

Job 41: 1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down ? 2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? 3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? 4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? 5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? 6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? 7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? 8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more . 9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain : shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? 10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up : who then is able to stand before me? 11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. 12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power *, nor his comely proportion. 13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? 14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about. 15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. 16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. 17 They are joined one to another, they stick together , that they cannot be sundered . 18 By his neesings a light doth shine , and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. 19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out . 20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. 21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. 22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. 23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together : they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved . 24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. 25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid : by reason of breakings they purify themselves. 26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold : the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. 27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. 28 The arrow cannot make him flee : slingstones are turned with him into stubble. 29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear. 30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire. 31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment. 32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. 33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. 34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

[Rudder]

Can you please provide an operational definition of a dinosaur?