Posted on 07/15/2015 11:34:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The dirty little secret about gay marriage: Most gay couples are not monogamous. We have come to accept lately, partly thanks to Liza Mundy’s excellent recent cover story in the Atlantic and partly because we desperately need something to make the drooping institution of heterosexual marriage seem vibrant again, that gay marriage has something to teach us, that gay couples provide a model for marriages that are more egalitarian and less burdened by the old gender roles that are weighing marriage down these days.
But the thorny part of the gay marriage experiment is sex, and more precisely, monogamous sex. Mundy writes about an old study from the '80s that found that gay couples were extremely likely to have had sex outside their relationship—82 percent did. That was before AIDS and the great matrimony craze in the gay community. She also tells the story of Dan Savage, who started out wanting to be monogamous until he and his partner had kids, and then they loosened up on that in order to make their union last. “Monogamish” is what he calls his new model. But as Mundy asks, can anyone out there imagine a husband proposing that same deal to his pregnant wife?
A long Gawker story last week explored this problem in greater detail. In the fight for marriage equality, the gay rights movement has put forth couples that look like straight ones, together forever, loyal, sharing assets. But what no one wants to talk about is that they don’t necessarily represent the norm:
"The Gay Couples Study out of San Francisco State University—which, in following over 500 gay couples over many years is the largest on-going study of its kind—has found that about half of all couples have sex with someone other than their partner, with their partner knowing."
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...
most hetero couples are not 100% monogamous
not supporting gay marriage. just saying this isn’t really an argument against it
Gay was a mental illness that was politicized into becoming some kind of normal state.
Half the people in this NORMAL state try to kill themselves at least once in life.
Bible calls them an Abomination.
By the way, what are the statistics regarding gay adoption?
Are they good parents and is gay a learned behavior and are their children claiming to be gay more than the national average? If so the children are in danger with gay parents. If not then the children will be fine.
“Most gay couples are not monogamous.”
And there is still no cure for AIDS. Homophobia, anyone?
I never met a monogamous homo couple. Many that I knew admitted that they went to gay clubs and bathhouses where they had unprotected, anonymous sex with lots of other men.
I had read of this somewhere before. Now that same-sex marriage seems to be the law of the land,what are the legal ramifications?
Back when this all started Bette Midler caught hell for saying “I’ve been around gay people all of my life, and you guys can’t handle monogamy!”
She was absolutely right.
The simple reality is that the gay lifestyle consists of sex with many strangers and few if any long term, let alone monogamous, relationships.
Less than 1% of gays report, to gay friendly researchers, to having sex with fewer than 5 partners. On the other hand, 43% report having more than 500 sexual partners including 28% who have had more than 1000 sexual partners.
To put this in context, only 25% of heterosexual men have sex with more than 10 women in their lifetimes; women average 4.7 partners over their lives.
Gay relationships rarely last more than 2 years. A study of gay “marriages” in Holland found that they last, on average, 1.5 years and that they are not monogamous. Another study showed that not a single gay couple was monogamous for more than five years. Straight marriages are far longer lasting and much more likely to be monogamous.
For example in 2009 the average duration of an American woman’s first marriage was 20.8 years. Second marriages last 14.5 years. In 2009, 30% of American heterosexuals were not married, 55% had been married once, 12% had been married twice, and 3% had been married more than twice.
This disparity isn’t surprising, given that men tend to be more promiscuous than women. A sexual relationship without a woman is hence likely to be based on sex, not love.
Basically what passes for love in gay relationships is really lust or infatuation. It’s not the sort of love that keeps a couple faithful and together for decades. Gays as people deserve better than that, but they will never find it if they follow their inclinations.
RE: most hetero couples are not 100% monogamous
Two things come to mind:
1) By hetero COUPLES, are you referring to MARRIED COUPLES?
2) Do you have a source, a study, supporting the above remark?
They’re not married either.
And they’re not couples. You have to have the ability to couple to actually be a couple.
No they didn't.
It's impossible for two people of the same sex to have children by each other. Unfortunately, they were given children by equally immoral courts who care more about leftist ideology than they do right or wrong.
The other little secret is that married men pretty much behave according to how they feel about sex outside marriage, meaning that roughly the same 21% of them cheat.
Meanwhile, about 95% of homosexual men seek sex as often as possible with as many partners as possible according to most reliable studies.
There are two reasons for this:
Good things do not happen when two discharge pipes are connected as even the most amateur plumber can tell you.
Maybe, but the fact that they can distinguish themselves is how they have their sex from all of us.
Now because of that they think they should play families, and tell us we have to accept their agenda which is all based on sex.
One can love someone else, hell I love a few people , but I feel that I only want sex with my wife.
So yes it is all about sex to them not love they like to preach to the sheep and ignorant.
I have only known a few gay men enough to be able to know, but these few had had more willies in them than a Texaco urinal. By their own admission.
The only stats I've seen, and it was not that many years ago, said that most married couples are in fact monogamous. That number may be pushed up by the fact that if they're not monogamous, they tend to get divorced—so they're not "couples" anymore.
By the way, in another marriage-statistics shocker, I read recently that the divorce rate is not 50 percent, and never has been. The high number was because of a statistical methodology quirk. I think the real rate, although too high, turned out to be about 30 percent.
A huge new revenue stream for divorce lawyers.
Gen. 19:4-5
“But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.”
I don’t think anyone is really surprised by this headline.
Basically correct. They trumpet the “50% of marriages end in divorce” statistic as a well-accepted half-truth because there is a decent sized subset of serial divorcers.
I disagree. Of course, schlepping around seems to be the norm for many these days, but for almost all married couples, fidelity is important. Hollywood encourages the idea that casual sex with anyone, any time is just fine, but most people want an exclusive relationship with someone they can trust.
Second, there is schlepping around and then there is the practice of many homosexuals. Or, as Richard Belzer once said before he became PC, “Who would have thought that getting ****** up the *** 50 times a day would be bad for you?”
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