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To: CpnHook

I will always allow for the possibility that Obama’s parents and/or grandparents arranged for someone at Kapi’olani Hospital to create a falsified data birth certificate for him. Since he signed it, the most likely hypothetical candidate would be Attending Ob-Gyn David Sinclair, M.D.

The motivation for creating a birth certfcate would be to insure American citizenship for the child or to increase the odds of the father being granted Permanent Resident Alien status with an American wife AND child. That zips an alien up to the top of the list for a Green Card.

Forty-seven years later when Hawaii government officials went to check on the birth record, they found a “real” original vital record in the files.

Back in 1961 there was almost no attention paid to idenity theft or the current day issues of illegal immigration.


121 posted on 07/23/2015 10:42:58 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
I will always allow for the possibility that Obama’s parents and/or grandparents arranged for someone at Kapi’olani Hospital to create a falsified data birth certificate for him. ince he signed it, the most likely hypothetical candidate would be Attending Ob-Gyn David Sinclair, M.D.

Short of possessing omniscience (nope) or a perfect historical record (which, by definition, never exists) the "it's possible" scenario in historical accounts often can't be excluded. Though it's still an Occam's Razor world I inhabit, and so the "is it plausible?" question persists.

Under your Dr. Sinclair hypothesis, did Sinclair actually attend a birth? If so, I see no reason at all for him to think any of the information supplied was false. If not, why on earth would a physician potentially put his medical license on the line to help out some African dude (whom he's likely never met) or even to help out the Dunhams (who had just moved to Hawaii about a year prior; it's not like he's been their trusted family physician for generations)?

And what might have been falsified?

BHO as father? That seems doubtful unless one wants to do the "does the Prez look more like F. Davis, Malcolm, or the Subud guy?" bit. Once that INS gambit failed and BHO returned to Africa, why maintain the pretense that BHO was Obama's father (to the point of letting Obama publish an entire book about this) if he was in fact not?

Stanley Ann as mother? Even less likely. A family foisting off someone else's child onto their 17 year old daughter, who nonetheless maintains a lifelong relationship with Obama? Nah.

Obama not being born in the U.S.? Again, the alternatives are less plausible than the story told by the birth certificate. Kenya can near absolutely be precluded given the timetable of when the Dunhams arrived in Hawaii and when S.A. was back in Seattle, plus the records which show only 1 person coming from that whole region of Africa to the U.S. in that time period (S.A. plus baby makes two.) Washington? Obama is still a U.S. citizen; why forge the birth in Hawaii? Canada? An hypothesis lacking even a shred of direct evidence.

A falsified-from-the-start certificate is possible, but at the end of the day, not very plausible, no mater how one slices this.

125 posted on 07/23/2015 11:53:56 AM PDT by CpnHook
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To: Nero Germanicus
Forty-seven years later when Hawaii government officials went to check on the birth record, they found a “real” original vital record in the files.

Which they adamantly refuse to show anyone. Not good enough. Constitutional requirements trumps any and all state laws.

Unfortunately our Election officials are ignorant, cowardly and intent on looking the other way.

152 posted on 07/23/2015 1:12:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Nero Germanicus
Back in 1961 there was almost no attention paid to idenity theft or the current day issues of illegal immigration.

Absolutely right. The Focuse of the Hawaiian birth certificate mill of that time was generating very valuable citizenship for people around the Pacific rim in the aftermath of World War II.

Obama just got lucky that his bogus documents could be created during such an opportune moment. Amidst the thousands of other foreigners fabricating US Citizenship, who would notice one little Canadian Bastard sneaking in?

157 posted on 07/23/2015 1:20:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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